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    Quote Originally Posted by wootsk View Post
    You just need to have this idea:
    3 entry = 1 new lens
    1 year entry = 1 new camera

    Go more into CS B&S forum for more poison and stay away from the table
    Gamblers will have this idea:

    1 entry = 1 new camera + 3 brand NEW sparkling lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchmj View Post
    Gamblers will have this idea:

    1 entry = 1 new camera + 3 brand NEW sparkling lens.
    and not forgetting ...is ok i lose a cropped body now...later i will win 10 leica M9...come on come on...huat ah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canonised View Post
    $100 is to keep those "border-line" gamblers from going in ... for those die-hard small gamblers, it is just a matter of time before they will just pay and believe that they can win back this $100 plus more .... these are the people that we will hearing about their "hardluck" stories from their broken families ....
    i think we seem to be forgetting the family-barring rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canonised View Post
    Now, imagine, if Mediacorp has a new series on "Casino" and then when you have all the actors and actresses q up for $100 ticket or show passports and I/C to get into the casino for the big showdown .... wonder whether they will shoot this segment to make it more authentic ....
    or if 007 shot in Singapore, not sure whether the Director will show James Bond showing his passport to get in for free to gamble on the VIP table?
    i think they oredi did have a series on casino games de...donno wat its called...i just know it's cheesy as hell...and oh, copycat storyline round round from hk serial.
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    I believe the casino is a right decision. As it is the first in Singapore, many locals will want to "take a look" and probably try a few hands. After awhile, the novelty will wear off either by burning their hands or just got tired of it. As time goes by, people will learn to gamble responsibly and limit themselves to what they can afford.

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    My Taiwanese friend tells me this... a direct quote from him; "Why should I come to Casino in Singapore? If I want to gamble I will go to Macau, Singapore cannot smoke cannot easily get callgirls etc.. etc.. in Macau if I am in thick of gambling you think I want to stop and go outside to smoke? I smoke right there in Casino."

    I am not sure about any Casino if they allow smoking as I have never stepped into one, do you guys agree what he said is accurate?

    Anyway, my own pov is having a Casino was a bad decision.

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    It was a crass idea in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhunden View Post
    It was a crass idea in the first place.
    How so? Putting aside illegal alleyway, casino and online gambling not to mention Singapore Pools, there are already 4 to 5 gambling ships based at Harbourfront, the highest number anywhere else in the world. What difference would it made?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-Orion Images View Post
    How so? Putting aside illegal alleyway, casino and online gambling not to mention Singapore Pools, there are already 4 to 5 gambling ships based at Harbourfront, the highest number anywhere else in the world. What difference would it made?
    Having the Casino made it easily accessible.. I know there is a $100 fee, still it is just at our doorstep, thus it is why I said easily accessible. What is the difference with Singapore Pools? well it made the punter place bets every other minute or several minutes after meaning more money and quicker to loose. Does these gambling ships dock everyday? I don't think so.

    Anyway, I am sure all these were already considered and I guess someone must have thought the pluses outweighs the minuses, we cannot say they are right... and they too cannot say they are right... no one really knows.

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    The main objective for the Casino venture is not
    to loose out in bringing in the tourists thus ensuring
    the survival of the tourist industry.

    However there was a saying about doing everything
    in good faith and in the realm of being the leader in
    the daring and risky endeavor.

    Can the casino adopt the following?

    A good objective of leadership in any kind
    of commercial operation is to help those who
    are doing poorly to do well and to help those
    who are doing well to do even better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by azul123 View Post
    My Taiwanese friend tells me this... a direct quote from him; "Why should I come to Casino in Singapore? If I want to gamble I will go to Macau, Singapore cannot smoke cannot easily get callgirls etc.. etc.. in Macau if I am in thick of gambling you think I want to stop and go outside to smoke? I smoke right there in Casino."

    I am not sure about any Casino if they allow smoking as I have never stepped into one, do you guys agree what he said is accurate?

    Anyway, my own pov is having a Casino was a bad decision.

    ../azul123
    True but the SG casinos are more to attract the high rollers from the region. Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia.. lots of them around.

    It's also a place for tourists to go at night because a lot of them complain there's nothing much to do in Singapore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampthing View Post
    True but the SG casinos are more to attract the high rollers from the region. Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia.. lots of them around.
    If you are a super rich "high roller".. what is a cost of an airfare from Thailand to Singapore compare to Thailand to Macau? that was the point my Taiwanese friend was trying to make. In Singapore, there are still some restrictions.. to him, he would prefer to go to Macau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azul123 View Post
    If you are a super rich "high roller".. what is a cost of an airfare from Thailand to Singapore compare to Thailand to Macau? that was the point my Taiwanese friend was trying to make. In Singapore, there are still some restrictions.. to him, he would prefer to go to Macau.

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    It isn't the airfare; travelling time as well.

    And if you have children and wife, easier to let them do their own thing in Singapore than Macau.

    Besides if you've that kinda money, I'm sure Thailand has "avenues" where you can indulge your gambling habits without needing to go to the airport. And Cambodia has 7 casinos that can help soothe the gambling urge : http://www.amazing-thailand.com/Casinos.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by swampthing View Post
    Besides if you've that kinda money, I'm sure Thailand has "avenues" where you can indulge your gambling habits without needing to go to the airport. And Cambodia has 7 casinos that can help soothe the gambling urge : http://www.amazing-thailand.com/Casinos.html
    True and that's one for against coming to Casino in Singapore.

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    Looks like another Suzhou Park...


    Letter to the ST Forum:

    "Tourists were in the minority. Inside the casino, one could not miss these work permit workers and students. They were everywhere - mingling with the crowd, sitting at the gaming tables and trying their hand at the different games and the slot machines... blue-collar workers toil under the sun to earn their limited keep, only to wager away their wages at the gaming tables. Parents spend a princely sum to send their precious children here to study, only for them to waste time in the casinos."

    Business Times Report:

    "Genting Singapore shares have been taking a beating, falling almost 30 per cent from its peak of about $1.30 per share a month ago to 94 cents yesterday... Citigroup gaming analysts said that it was worrying that RWS attracted only 86,000 visitors in its first four days of operations... 'In our view, this is a weak opening considering Melco Crown Entertainment's City of Dreams (in Macau) attracted about 40,000 visitors on its first day. The current run rate is 37 per cent below our 2011 visitor expectation and there remains significant downside risk to our Singapore estimates.'"
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    "Only" 86,000 visitors? But the news reports long queues and waiting time etc..? Isn't that a sign of overcrowding already?......... hmm..

    btw, can't figure out why they allow WP holders and students ("residents") while denying free access by Citizens and PRs.. If potential social problems were a concerns, aren't these 2 groups with limited income a potential cause for concern too? What would happen if these WP holders or students who might have borrowed $$$$ to come to SGP only to donate it to the casinos at the table?

    Are citizens or PRs more prone to gambling induced social ills then foreigners?

    If they wanna restrict, should restrict WP holders and students too..
    Last edited by Limsgp; 22nd February 2010 at 08:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limsgp View Post
    "Only" 86,000 visitors? But the news reports long queues and waiting time etc..? Isn't that a sign of overcrowding already?......... hmm..

    btw, can't figure out why they allow WP holders and students ("residents") while denying free access by Citizens and PRs.. If potential social problems were a concerns, aren't these 2 groups with limited income a potential cause for concern too? What would happen if these WP holders or students who might have borrowed $$$$ to come to SGP only to donate it to the casinos at the table?

    Are citizens or PRs more prone to gambling induced social ills then foreigners?

    If they wanna restrict, should restrict WP holders and students too..

    Overcrowding might be more due to bad crowd control
    Also not all the tables were open then
    A taxi driver told me that all the tables were opened up this weekend though

    Anyway the business times report is interesting because as it states, even though lky said that the casino made 3.5+ mill each day on its opening days, that's actually below expected performance level...

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    i never understand why people gamble. especially when all the odds are set against you. In long run you will never win in a casino.

    blackjack lose: 47.89% provided u know how to play
    rouette: house edge 5.26%

    dont even think of slots....you can never win them there


    The only exception is Poker, where casino can only take rakes (something like a service fee for them to deal u cards).
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsoyabean View Post
    i never understand why people gamble. especially when all the odds are set against you.
    Life itself is a gamble where the odds are always against us.

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    Surprised to read in TNP about kids being left outside the casino while parents play inside the casino. Shouldn't there be a movie theater or arcade so that they can spend time safely away?

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