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    Default How to take a pic with Slow Shutter but not Overexpose the pic?

    i understand that using filters is one solution. ND, if im not wrong?

    how about other methods? tried to minus exposure but doesnt work.

    today went botanic garden to shoot some waterfall, tried a 2 secs but the pic almost turned out white under the bright sunlight. should had put on the CPL filter (does CPL help)

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    Default Re: How to take a pic with Slow Shutter but not Overexpose the pic?

    Set camera on tripod, aperture priority, use the smallest iso, close down the aperture to f/8-11 or more, add required ND filters +/- CPL. Check along the way on the LCD

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    Shoot at different time of the day/different day/use ND filters, but the BEST thing you could ever do for yourself is to READ and LEARN the BASICS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shierwin View Post
    Set camera on tripod, aperture priority, use the smallest iso, close down the aperture to f/8-11 or more, add required ND filters +/- CPL. Check along the way on the LCD
    Yup. I set to the smallest aperture and tried not to overslow (is there such word? haha). tried 1 sec and its still overexpose, end up using 1/13 but not really the results that i wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Merchant View Post
    Shoot at different time of the day/different day/use ND filters, but the BEST thing you could ever do for yourself is to READ and LEARN the BASICS.
    many thanks for your kind advise.

    I been reading up basics and learning as i go along. i understand that to pros like you, this is a dumb qn and ought to be flamed at. but i believe that manuals and articles only address to certain issues by certain perspective, they can't really answer every single qns out there by just a single keyword. I googled around before asking and that's why I know ND filters are used or preferred by other photographers when it comes to such situation. So i was wondering if there are other methods and can benefit not only me, but also the rest of the world if they googled "slow shutter but not overexpose"

    which is why i had to post a thread like this (and i carefully picked Newbies Corner) to seek more pro's advise like yours. Hope you understand.




    as for different time/different day, i think its only feasible if you are referring to local scenery. I can't possibly re-arrange my itinerary when im overseas cos i want to go back to a place to re-shoot a waterfall.
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    do play ard with your ISO settings, f-stops and shutter speeds...read up and once you understand how they work hand in hand...it'll be much2 easier when shooting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahlan View Post
    do play ard with your ISO settings, f-stops and shutter speeds...read up and once you understand how they work hand in hand...it'll be much2 easier when shooting...
    I set to the smallest aperture, lowest ISO to minimise light into the shutter alrdy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeeey View Post
    I set to the smallest aperture, lowest ISO to minimise light into the shutter alrdy..
    In this case, short of using a ND filter, there is nothing else you can do about it as environmental factors is beyond our control.
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    I don't think I flamed you in any way and why are you assuming that others are assuming you're asking a dumb question on the wild guess that they are 'pro'? That's making a negative assumption, and I don't think anyone appreciates it.

    You seem like an intelligent and hardworking person, and I am sure you will get immense joy from photography if you work hard, and part of that hard work is reading and learning the basics.

    One thing puzzles me though ... the books and numerous articles available (and you wouldn't believe just how helpful instruction manuals and technical manuals can be) will provide faaaaar more pertinent information than you could ever get from a few sentences on a forum. Are you saying that the well-written books and articles, many by professionals with decades of experience, fail in comparison to a few sentences of advise that complete strangers whose credentials and experience you may not be able to verify on a forum may provide?

    What makes you assume I am a pro? Mabbie I'm just some spoilt brat schoolkid with too much time on hand and just come here to bla bla bla.

    Just to clarify, I am NOT flaming or trolling you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeeey View Post
    I set to the smallest aperture, lowest ISO to minimise light into the shutter alrdy..
    What are you trying to capture? Shooting into direct light?

    I used ISO100 at f/10. My shutter speed was 313 seconds. Output is..


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    I believe you have used the max setting of your cam (lowest ISO, smallest aperture)

    Your solution is either to stop down further with ND or wait until the lights fall off

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeeey View Post
    I set to the smallest aperture, lowest ISO to minimise light into the shutter alrdy..
    yo TS since you already did some self research, the "best & only" solution is by using ND filter to stop down the light thus creating smooth waterfall effects "without much" overexposed than trying to achieve without a ND filter.. unless the light is at its minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Merchant View Post
    I don't think I flamed you in any way and why are you assuming that others are assuming you're asking a dumb question on the wild guess that they are 'pro'? That's making a negative assumption, and I don't think anyone appreciates it.

    You seem like an intelligent and hardworking person, and I am sure you will get immense joy from photography if you work hard, and part of that hard work is reading and learning the basics.

    One thing puzzles me though ... the books and numerous articles available (and you wouldn't believe just how helpful instruction manuals and technical manuals can be) will provide faaaaar more pertinent information than you could ever get from a few sentences on a forum. Are you saying that the well-written books and articles, many by professionals with decades of experience, fail in comparison to a few sentences of advise that complete strangers whose credentials and experience you may not be able to verify on a forum may provide?

    What makes you assume I am a pro? Mabbie I'm just some spoilt brat schoolkid with too much time on hand and just come here to bla bla bla.

    Just to clarify, I am NOT flaming or trolling you.
    True. True.

    Thanks for the heads up. I get sleepy when i see articles of long essays. so i prefer short and sweet answers online so me, hardworking?! NEH! haha...

    yeap. no worries bro. i understand your point. Much appreciated. Cheers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanG View Post
    What are you trying to capture? Shooting into direct light?

    I used ISO100 at f/10. My shutter speed was 313 seconds. Output is..

    313 seconds!? thats like 5 minutes man....

    i believe your pic was taken at night?

    mine was a freaking hot sunny day in the lovely tropical country, was so damn bright that the water reflects light like HID lamp for street racing... oh well, maybe like what chalib said, the lowest i went was the lowest my cam was capable of and apparently thats not enough... (ISO80 i believe is still alright, maybe its the aperture that needs to be improve. f8 still too wide? guess i shall have to live with it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeeey View Post
    True. True.

    Thanks for the heads up. I get sleepy when i see articles of long essays. so i prefer short and sweet answers online so me, hardworking?! NEH! haha...

    yeap. no worries bro. i understand your point. Much appreciated. Cheers...
    not bad already compared to me haha i dont even bother to do much research but do lots of trial and error to figure it out + seeing other ppl photo at flickr on using nd filters

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeeey View Post
    True. True.

    Thanks for the heads up. I get sleepy when i see articles of long essays. so i prefer short and sweet answers online so me, hardworking?! NEH! haha...

    yeap. no worries bro. i understand your point. Much appreciated. Cheers...
    If I came off harsh in any way, I apologize. Really.

    But do take time to discover the joy of reading. It will open up many new worlds to you. At least you only get sleepy. I actually fall asleep on books! LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeeey View Post
    313 seconds!? thats like 5 minutes man....

    i believe your pic was taken at night?

    mine was a freaking hot sunny day in the lovely tropical country, was so damn bright that the water reflects light like HID lamp for street racing... oh well, maybe like what chalib said, the lowest i went was the lowest my cam was capable of and apparently thats not enough... (ISO80 i believe is still alright, maybe its the aperture that needs to be improve. f8 still too wide? guess i shall have to live with it)
    Then you have to use ND filters to cut off light from entering. Most lenses can go down to f/22 IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Merchant View Post
    If I came off harsh in any way, I apologize. Really.

    But do take time to discover the joy of reading. It will open up many new worlds to you. At least you only get sleepy. I actually fall asleep on books! LOL!
    no worries man. no offence taken in any manner.

    what you said is very true. about reputable authors writing articles compared to unknow strangers making illogical comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeeey View Post
    313 seconds!? thats like 5 minutes man....

    i believe your pic was taken at night?

    mine was a freaking hot sunny day in the lovely tropical country, was so damn bright that the water reflects light like HID lamp for street racing... oh well, maybe like what chalib said, the lowest i went was the lowest my cam was capable of and apparently thats not enough... (ISO80 i believe is still alright, maybe its the aperture that needs to be improve. f8 still too wide? guess i shall have to live with it)
    in such condition....u simply need to use ND filter....don't have to "simply live with it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeeey View Post
    mine was a freaking hot sunny day in the lovely tropical country,
    If ND not available and die, die you want the waterfall to be silky smooth then photoshop is an alternate challenging approach.

    One lesson you should learn from this situation is to buy yourself a vari ND filter and always keep it in your regular camera bag.
    Another lesson is to learn photoshop.
    Meanwhile enjoy shooting and happy learning.

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