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    Default Re: Will you give up a good paying job for a role as a trainee assistant photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by presstheshutter View Post
    Let's say you are working in a different field from photography and earning >4k per month, would you give up the job, just so you can enter the photography field? Even if it's just a trainee position to become assistant photographer?
    to answer your question, no.. not in a thousand years, not in singapore.

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    Default Re: Will you give up a good paying job for a role as a trainee assistant photographer

    no way man.

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    Default Re: Will you give up a good paying job for a role as a trainee assistant photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by presstheshutter View Post
    Let's say you are working in a different field from photography and earning >4k per month, would you give up the job, just so you can enter the photography field? Even if it's just a trainee position to become assistant photographer?

    Why not? Have witnessed people doing it.
    However most of the time I know of people who succeed
    through really hard work and grinned determination.
    They can see the visable through the invisable and have
    great pride in what they want to be as a photographer.

    If you are serious and really feel the calling to go
    into photography, get a few sincere and honest
    evaluations of your talents, character as well as
    your personality from honest and good closed
    friends, teachers and professional coaches.

    No need to ask your colleagues, you will seldom get
    a positive attitude from them.

    Next, sit down and map out your plan to see where
    you will be going to in the next two, three
    and five years. You need formal training or
    appenticeship in almost all areas of the
    photography business including any other
    specialised and related skills.

    You must have some kind of finance in order to
    pull through your initial photography education
    and equip yourself with the minimum gears to start with.
    The decision you make today is what you'll do tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    This is out of topic but how come your shutter count... err, I mean post count, is zero arh?

    Anyway I always believe one should work what one enjoys, then it's not work every day already. Otherwise can be such a chore. Of course, one still needs to fill the rice bowl and sometimes we don't get to choose what we like to work as. I enjoy my work, so every day gets by fast enough. And still get paid for it.

    For me, photography is just a passing fad. Maybe one day I will be out of job... but I think I still won't go into photography coz I'm not good lah haha. Then I will do something else I enjoy (but cannot think of anything I love more than computers )
    just joined mah...and spend most of his time in kopitiam lor..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlkk76 View Post
    just joined mah...and spend most of his time in kopitiam lor..
    kopitiam dun increase post count one meh? Okay.. lemme test this theory...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    kopitiam dun increase post count one meh? Okay.. lemme test this theory...
    WHOA! This is so cool! Yeah! I didn't know that Kopitiam dun increase post counts (or is there a bug still on somewhere in the system). Lemme go try post something more useful than in Kopitiam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    WHOA! This is so cool! Yeah! I didn't know that Kopitiam dun increase post counts (or is there a bug still on somewhere in the system). Lemme go try post something more useful than in Kopitiam.
    Okay just tested. Yeah, Kopitiam doesn't increase post count. Didn't know that before. So cool. I can now post unlimited posts in Kopitiam!!

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    Sometimes people get confused with interest and hobby and career.
    U may have interest in something but dosent mean you can turn it into a successful career.
    A hobby is generated by passion without any economic inclination.
    A career (in the Singapore context at least) is about pursuing your best economic obligations.
    More often than not those 3 components do not fit in the same puzzle. Someone was right to point out that mixing those 3 will only spoil the soup.
    Starting any career, not just photography, is all about risk managing and financial shrewdness. Plus the ability to generate sufficient money to sustain not only for yourself but your operating costs on top of your daily expenses.
    Some people are just born entrepreneurs, while most of us are better off as skilled employees.
    The way I see it, too many unskilled photographers are flooding what is already a very small market.
    So thinking about becoming full time??
    Think again!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by allenleonhart View Post
    hell no. i mean who on earth in their sane mind will do tat:x its one thing to take photos as a hobbie. its another to actually use it to earn money. u will be stressed.
    Eh that's not a very nice statement if you're a professional, because the statement is that you have to be insane if you're a professional...

    I'm not in any way suggesting you should ditch your 4k a month job.

    Ultimately you have to make the call - you know how much you like or dislike your current job, how much you like photography, and whether you think it's something you will still enjoy doing in 10 years. After that, you can start trying to find out how different it is between doing it professionally and casually.

    There are flipsides to the general consensus on this thread.

    It is still possible to love photography as a professional. Sometimes being a professional opens up doors and experiences that you wouldn't otherwise get as a non-professional. If you can make it work, then it gives you the chance to do something that you truly love as your job.

    There are times when I'm glad I'm being paid because I wouldn't want to be doing what I was doing if I wasn't getting paid. I go through periods when I want nothing to do with my camera outside of work. And then there are times when I feel thoroughly and extremely blessed to be paid to do what I do.

    Again, I'm not in any way suggesting you ditch or job (or not, for that matter). But it can look glamourous from the outside, and Ian's advice is also very true, there is no guarantee you'll make it, and business and marketing sense are if anything more important than any photographic talent.

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    Default Re: Will you give up a good paying job for a role as a trainee assistant photographer

    Hobby = shoot what you like
    Job = shoot what your clients like

    Hold the $4K day job, learn photography as a hobby. Build up an impressive skillset and portfolio. Maybe take up some freelance assignments and build up a client base. From these, you can roughly decide if you wanna go full time or not.

    Risky to jump in not knowing what its like.

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    if you need to ask, you shouldn't do it... go experience being a part time photography assistant for an extended period first... get some experience under the belt... if possible work your rep from 3rd to 2nd to 1st assistant... when starting out as an assistant, don't expect to even handle the camera or lights... expect s&%# work and take it as it comes... be humble and learn as much as you can from OBSERVATION (don't go around asking questions... you'll run the risk of p#$%ing off people)... don't bring your camera and start taking pictures during production!!!... then after all that, make up your mind

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    The photographic biz pie here is too small just stay where you are and take photography
    as a hobby.
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    definitely not for me. unless somehow i lost my cerebral function.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat View Post
    Okay just tested. Yeah, Kopitiam doesn't increase post count. Didn't know that before. So cool. I can now post unlimited posts in Kopitiam!!
    after nearly 6 years as a member in CS then you realised it

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantcanopy View Post
    definitely not for me. unless somehow i lost my cerebral function.
    hahahaha! Photography will never pay as good as your job!
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    Am I nuts!!! Quit my $4K job just to enter into photography and start as trainee assistant to assistant photographer only.

    What the pay like as trainee and also what the chances get selected? How long will you jump from asst. photographer to professional photographer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by razor View Post
    hahahaha! Photography will never pay as good as your job!
    Maybe not easily, and maybe it will require talent and hard work in combination, but "never"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by razor View Post
    hahahaha! Photography will never pay as good as your job!
    Want to bet on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian View Post
    Want to bet on that?
    Yes well, maybe razor was going by the average Singapore Weekend Warrior Special rate

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    after helping my friends do some commercial projects for fun, don't think I will ever make photography my full time job. pay is peanuts, hours are long and there is basically no respect for the photographer (in SG context).

    its best to keep hobby and job apart.

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