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    got myself a used ist dl..went to changi this morning to test the camera..took a few pictures, playing ard wif the shutter n ampeture settings..

    there were few nice fotos but its not wat i expected from a dslr camera..mebbe i dint do the settings right?

    most of the pictures r quite dark n dint really stands out...seems that i must use the flash to get good pics..most of the pics are taken at iso400

    any advice for the pros??

    heres some samples




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    A few things to read up:
    Photography Notes for Newbies for general understanding of photography
    Minimum Focusing Distance of lenses
    Your camera manual (selecting focus points)
    Just having a DSLR doesn't result in "wow" pictures on the spot. It requires even more understanding of the topic to use the right settings. Just wild snapping and fiddling with some settings (btw: what exactly have you done?) won't help much.
    As a bonus, try to write in proper English, helps a lot to understand you and your problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    A few things to read up:
    Photography Notes for Newbies for general understanding of photography
    Minimum Focusing Distance of lenses
    Your camera manual (selecting focus points)
    Just having a DSLR doesn't result in "wow" pictures on the spot. It requires even more understanding of the topic to use the right settings. Just wild snapping and fiddling with some settings (btw: what exactly have you done?) won't help much.
    As a bonus, try to write in proper English, helps a lot to understand you and your problem.
    Thank you for the tip.

    I have printed the posts from the thread that you have mentioned and I am going to go through it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enrell View Post
    got myself a used ist dl..went to changi this morning to test the camera..took a few pictures, playing ard wif the shutter n ampeture settings..

    there were few nice fotos but its not wat i expected from a dslr camera..mebbe i dint do the settings right?

    most of the pictures r quite dark n dint really stands out...seems that i must use the flash to get good pics..most of the pics are taken at iso400

    any advice for the pros??

    heres some samples




    You have to learn the basics first. Don't use auto. Use PASM. And learn to read the light meter. If you can't take a good picture with the viewfinder, use the Live View first. You won't be able to take good photos with a DSLR if you don't know how. Nope, you MIGHT not need flash in some situations..

    and you can also use some softwares to post-process your photos. Shoot in RAW.

    Sorry if I sounded hostile. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehzeh View Post
    You have to learn the basics first. Don't use auto. Use PASM. And learn to read the light meter. If you can't take a good picture with the viewfinder, use the Live View first. You won't be able to take good photos with a DSLR if you don't know how. Nope, you MIGHT not need flash in some situations..

    and you can also use some softwares to post-process your photos. Shoot in RAW.

    Sorry if I sounded hostile. LOL.
    I totally disagree. Liveview will not help him learn any of the basics.

    FYI, he's using a PENTAX *ist DL, which is from 2005. It has no live view and only 3 AF points, and so he needs to work harder to get the basics right first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    I totally disagree. Liveview will not help him learn any of the basics.
    As in, if he want to see the difference when he is adjusting the white balance, exposure, he can use the Live View to see what are the differences. IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    I totally disagree. Liveview will not help him learn any of the basics.

    FYI, he's using a PENTAX *ist DL, which is from 2005. It has no live view and only 3 AF points, and so he needs to work harder to get the basics right first.
    Oh, I didn't see that. >.<

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    photoshop might help
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    Quote Originally Posted by spooN View Post
    photoshop might help
    i dint do any post-editing cos i want to see whats the quality like

    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    I totally disagree. Liveview will not help him learn any of the basics.

    FYI, he's using a PENTAX *ist DL, which is from 2005. It has no live view and only 3 AF points, and so he needs to work harder to get the basics right first.
    dats true. ive to get the basics right. so more reading n practising...

    Quote Originally Posted by tehzeh View Post
    You have to learn the basics first. Don't use auto. Use PASM. And learn to read the light meter. If you can't take a good picture with the viewfinder, use the Live View first. You won't be able to take good photos with a DSLR if you don't know how. Nope, you MIGHT not need flash in some situations..

    and you can also use some softwares to post-process your photos. Shoot in RAW.

    Sorry if I sounded hostile. LOL.
    no worries..no offence taken..im not using auto. just the S and A.

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    2nd & 4th picture

    Camera shake; it's not easy to shoot with low speed hand held. Use higher speed or tripod if possible.
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    #3 looks like your setup is front focusing... Should check on that. Maybe that's why your pictures are all so OOF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabee View Post
    #3 looks like your setup is front focusing... Should check on that. Maybe that's why your pictures are all so OOF.
    i googled it n it was suggested dat i shld the ist for calibration? if so where n how much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enrell View Post
    ....you ate hotcakes with sausage for breakfast??

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    Quote Originally Posted by cleonbong View Post
    ....you ate hotcakes with sausage for breakfast??
    yeah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by enrell View Post
    i googled it n it was suggested dat i shld the ist for calibration? if so where n how much?
    Bring it to the pentax service center.
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    In addition to all those learning mentioned, you should try to avoid iso1600 where possible for plants and flower. For instance the first orange flower pic where you see lots of discoloration thus the flower is not natural.

    Second is, technology has improved image processor and sensor in camera over the years so there is a gap in vibrancy. But that does not mean it is bad, it just mean you cannot let camera be itself.

    Follow PASM (not MSAP), use P mode first to get accustom to the camera's behaviour, then move to ASM. E.g Earlier version of LCD are no that high resolution, thus you may be get the full feel.

    Read your manuals too, check if the flash power (if the feature is avail) and EV have been changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cleonbong View Post
    ....you ate hotcakes with sausage for breakfast??
    he went to look at flowers?

    he took a downwards escalator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enrell View Post
    i googled it n it was suggested dat i shld the ist for calibration? if so where n how much?
    Actually, cant tell which specific parts in the picture you were focusing in the first place, so cant say if needs calibration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahbian View Post
    Actually, cant tell which specific parts in the picture you were focusing in the first place, so cant say if needs calibration.
    Yup, agreed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahbian View Post
    Actually, cant tell which specific parts in the picture you were focusing in the first place, so cant say if needs calibration.
    from the viewfinder..looks like i got all in focus...man..seems like im suck in this..lol..gonna practice more..

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