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    Default tonika 10-17mm f2.8 vs Canon 10-20mm

    Hi guys,
    i am intrested in getting a wide angle lens but the problem is there issint a website that compare these both lens... so i am a little bit confuse... and some webby actaully say that 10-17 is actually a fisheye lens... what about canon 10-22 ? its a fish eye also? if its your whcih one will u buy ?

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    Default Re: tonika 10-17mm f2.8 vs Canon 10-20mm

    I thought it's 11-16?

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    Default Re: tonika 10-17mm f2.8 vs Canon 10-20mm

    I thought it's Tokina?
    Have you tried Photozone? Not a side-by-side comparison but you can open both reviews in different browser windows
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    Default Re: tonika 10-17mm f2.8 vs Canon 10-20mm

    hahah sorry for the post for so many typo =X alredy tried photozone... but abit hard to compare ...

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    Default Re: tonika 10-17mm f2.8 vs Canon 10-20mm

    I have the canon 10-22 mm it's not a fish eye it's a ultra wide angle lens.
    Just Shoot it!
    My Blog HERE

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    Default Re: tonika 10-17mm f2.8 vs Canon 10-20mm

    Tokina 10-17 is a fisheye, non-constant aperture. There are a few users in CS. You may check the Tokina subforum.
    More popular will be the Tokina 11-16 f2.8

    do check other thread in CS, about the comparison of Tokina 11-16 and EFS10-22; usually, people go for 10-22 for its wider, and better anti flare.

    Do note, to get a better fisheye effect on APSC, usually can only go for Sigma's fisheye.

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    Default Re: tonika 10-17mm f2.8 vs Canon 10-20mm

    thankz for the advise shen suing

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    Default Re: tonika 10-17mm f2.8 vs Canon 10-20mm

    I have a Tokina 11-16 f2.8 myself and I'm loving it for its sharpness and constant f2.8 aperture from 11mm to 16mm. For the flare control, Tokina provides the lens hood that comes together with the package to prevent flaring. Personally, I don't need the extra width so am ok to the 1mm difference.

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    Default Re: tonika 10-17mm f2.8 vs Canon 10-20mm

    Actually was abit curious, at such a wide angle is F2.8 needed? For Bokeh?

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    For faster shutter speeds in low light, a large aperture wide-angle can handheld better in much dimmer conditions..

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    Default Re: tonika 10-17mm f2.8 vs Canon 10-20mm

    Quote Originally Posted by J-Chan View Post
    For faster shutter speeds in low light, a large aperture wide-angle can handheld better in much dimmer conditions..

    Agree! but this is not the only solution!
    Can add the flash up also!
    Then, the range also very important.

    I bought Tokina 11-16 F2.8 before,
    then sold out,
    bought in Tokina 12-24 F4.

    Why? Because 12-24 this range not need always exchange lens if you need closer with your subject. And 12 mm wide is enough for me! So If have budget**I dun have budget -_-!!!**, why not get canon 10-22?

    The calculation after convert it to 35mm is 16mm- 35mm

    Such a flexible range, easier to get the image which you wish to get!

    Grab the one you need is the way you choose the lens, not choose the best o! Jus a small comment from my heart.



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    Last edited by Supertim; 28th December 2009 at 12:40 AM.

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    Default Re: tonika 10-17mm f2.8 vs Canon 10-20mm

    Quote Originally Posted by Supertim View Post
    Agree! but this is not the only solution!
    Can add the flash up also!
    Have you try using a single bounce flash on your UWA before for group shot? Trust me, I've been there, done that. It is not easy shooting with a flash + bounce card with UWA under low light condition, especially for group photo.

    For group shots with UWA, in order to illuminate the whole frame with accurate even exposure, you need more than 1 flash preferrably. For me, I don't have the luxury of strobes so I end up using 1 flash + bounce card and realised that even my 580EXII the flash @ +3, is not enough to light up the whole group. I end up using a wider aperture, slower shutter speed and higher ISO. Constant f2.8 is a plus for many low light shots and moreover, Tokina 11-16mm is one of the sharpness UWA around.

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    For me I'll get the Tokina 11-16. It's way sharper and better than Canon's 10-20. It's better built too.

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    Default Re: tonika 10-17mm f2.8 vs Canon 10-20mm

    Quote Originally Posted by NovJoe View Post
    Have you try using a single bounce flash on your UWA before for group shot? Trust me, I've been there, done that. It is not easy shooting with a flash + bounce card with UWA under low light condition, especially for group photo.

    For group shots with UWA, in order to illuminate the whole frame with accurate even exposure, you need more than 1 flash preferrably. For me, I don't have the luxury of strobes so I end up using 1 flash + bounce card and realised that even my 580EXII the flash @ +3, is not enough to light up the whole group. I end up using a wider aperture, slower shutter speed and higher ISO. Constant f2.8 is a plus for many low light shots and moreover, Tokina 11-16mm is one of the sharpness UWA around.

    Haha,you seemed correct!
    Thanks for reply!
    1 Flash may not able to manage in the UWA shooting,
    But, if there are more than 1 flash?
    And the skill also is the main issue, bro.

    Anyway, camera is just a equipment. There are no the best lens in the world, jus choose the one which suit your requirement.

    Enjoy it there is more important thing, isn't it?


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