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    Default Printing of Pic but color different...mind help?!..thz

    Hi all..
    yesterday i went to Kodak (if didn't remember wrongly..located inside westmall lv 1) for the instant printing.
    Purposely print 1 piece for so call "testing" and it turns out to b very very reddish brown as per compare to the picture from my lappy... (edit e photo from lightroom)..

    er.. wat can i do to ensure the correct or closest color?
    I did read up on color calibration etc..but isn't it seems more for those personal photo printer (use at home) than for outside printing?

    Kindly advise..

    sorry if too noob or been discussed...but i couldn't find the thread even after using the search..

    cheers!

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    u do any editing in photoshop ? u're using RBG or CMYK ? cause if im not wrong u should edit in CMYK for printing
    shoot me pls

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    1. calibrate your monitor
    2. make sure your photoshop is reading your photo's icc profile correctly
    3. save your files in sRGB before sending for printing

    I believe those printers will work well with sRGB.

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    Search the Digital Darkroom section for similar topics. It starts with a calibrated monitor and needs a few more things to consider. Also, tell the photolab not to do any adjustments (most will do some generic one).
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    might be the printer sucks.

    i once desaurated 1 picture. means is pure greyscale. but the icc profile i left it to sRGB.

    then i went to to the lab near my place, which is the kodak lab and the fuji lab in JP. they dont do minilab print for 1 piece, so i used the instant print.

    both images are off. 1 got a blue cast, 1 got a yellow cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jun1502 View Post
    u do any editing in photoshop ? u're using RBG or CMYK ? cause if im not wrong u should edit in CMYK for printing
    CMYK is for offset printing.

    TS is using color lab printing, they one accept RGB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireZ View Post
    Hi all..
    yesterday i went to Kodak (if didn't remember wrongly..located inside westmall lv 1) for the instant printing.
    Purposely print 1 piece for so call "testing" and it turns out to b very very reddish brown as per compare to the picture from my lappy... (edit e photo from lightroom)..

    er.. wat can i do to ensure the correct or closest color?
    I did read up on color calibration etc..but isn't it seems more for those personal photo printer (use at home) than for outside printing?

    Kindly advise..

    sorry if too noob or been discussed...but i couldn't find the thread even after using the search..

    cheers!
    first thing first, you want to do editing? you need to get your monitor calibrated first.

    calibrating of monitor is to show the correct colors on your monitor, if the monitor does not show blue as blue, red as red, mid gray as mid gray, what is the point of doing editing? you are not going any where.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jun1502 View Post
    u do any editing in photoshop ? u're using RBG or CMYK ? cause if im not wrong u should edit in CMYK for printing
    Ya..i did edit in lightroom 2 and converted it to jpeg..er..not sure will it b RBG or CMYK after conversion..pretty new..as in..i don't really do printing till this time round..haha..
    hence..didn't study much on this issue..

    Quote Originally Posted by aspenx View Post
    1. calibrate your monitor
    2. make sure your photoshop is reading your photo's icc profile correctly
    3. save your files in sRGB before sending for printing

    I believe those printers will work well with sRGB.
    icc profile?!...something new to me..time to read up...

    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    Search the Digital Darkroom section for similar topics. It starts with a calibrated monitor and needs a few more things to consider. Also, tell the photolab not to do any adjustments (most will do some generic one).
    er..this is the machine..hence i think...is pretty automatic?

    Quote Originally Posted by IsenGrim View Post
    might be the printer sucks.

    i once desaurated 1 picture. means is pure greyscale. but the icc profile i left it to sRGB.

    then i went to to the lab near my place, which is the kodak lab and the fuji lab in JP. they dont do minilab print for 1 piece, so i used the instant print.

    both images are off. 1 got a blue cast, 1 got a yellow cast.
    ophs....hopefully is the printer..lol...but still i really lack of the knowledge abt printin..so.. ultimately..i still gonna b blamed, b it if the printer suck..haha..

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    first thing first, you want to do editing? you need to get your monitor calibrated first.

    calibrating of monitor is to show the correct colors on your monitor, if the monitor does not show blue as blue, red as red, mid gray as mid gray, what is the point of doing editing? you are not going any where.
    Ooo..okok... hopefully it isn't hard to do color correction?!...

    headache coming...

    anyway..

    thanks every1!!..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireZ View Post
    er..this is the machine..hence i think...is pretty automatic?
    A machine is nothing but a tool. It requires a person with brain to operate it and to decide whether to apply any correction or not. Tell the lab not to apply any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    A machine is nothing but a tool. It requires a person with brain to operate it and to decide whether to apply any correction or not. Tell the lab not to apply any.
    Morning...icic..okok.. i assume those machine r meant for "non-edited" printing?...
    hm...will try out again after i try to calibrate the mointor color..

    Thanks a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireZ View Post
    Morning...icic..okok.. i assume those machine r meant for "non-edited" printing?...
    hm...will try out again after i try to calibrate the mointor color..

    Thanks a lot!

    Simplest to calibrate is to get a colour calibrator like Spyder3Express for about $150. I bought mine from Cathay Photo. For LCD based screens like laptops and other LCD screens, it is important to set eveything to neutral or 50% mark. Use the calibrator and the software will calibrate everything nicely.

    Then, you use lightroom or photoshop to "edit" your photos. What you see pn screen will be what you get from the photo labs. Recommend you use Kodak. Colours are more true to life.

    else...

    El Cheapo way is use icc profile. Still good enough but only 90% accurate. Why stop there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotwork77 View Post

    Simplest to calibrate is to get a colour calibrator like Spyder3Express for about $150. I bought mine from Cathay Photo. For LCD based screens like laptops and other LCD screens, it is important to set eveything to neutral or 50% mark. Use the calibrator and the software will calibrate everything nicely.

    Then, you use lightroom or photoshop to "edit" your photos. What you see pn screen will be what you get from the photo labs. Recommend you use Kodak. Colours are more true to life.

    else...

    El Cheapo way is use icc profile. Still good enough but only 90% accurate. Why stop there?
    Hi..thz for the info...Spyder3Express very exp for NS boi like me...low pay leh..

    probably will try out the icc profile...gonna do a search for it..

    Thanks a lot!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireZ View Post
    Hi..thz for the info...Spyder3Express very exp for NS boi like me...low pay leh..

    probably will try out the icc profile...gonna do a search for it..

    Thanks a lot!!
    If your monitor is not showing correct color when you edit, you will never get the correct color in print.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clown View Post
    If your monitor is not showing correct color when you edit, you will never get the correct color in print.
    er...any idea...is there any1 providing this sort of calibration service?..
    any idea with the rate?

    cheers!

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    do a search. there's somebody here doing this service.
    sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clown View Post
    do a search. there's somebody here doing this service.
    okok boss...
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireZ View Post
    okok boss...
    thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by FireZ View Post
    Hi..thz for the info...Spyder3Express very exp for NS boi like me...low pay leh..

    probably will try out the icc profile...gonna do a search for it..

    Thanks a lot!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Clown View Post
    do a search. there's somebody here doing this service.
    Since budegt is the constraint, then you might want to try this: http://www.quickgamma.de/indexen.html

    It's free and it's as close as if using a calibrator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotwork77 View Post
    Since budegt is the constraint, then you might want to try this: http://www.quickgamma.de/indexen.html

    It's free and it's as close as if using a calibrator.
    hi... i installed... but couldn't open up the program..

    btw..thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireZ View Post
    hi... i installed... but couldn't open up the program..

    btw..thanks!
    Scroll down and download the runtime library..

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