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    Although most cyclist are quite responsible, but I personally saw quite a few cyclist which think they own the pavement and give no consideration to other pavement user

    http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_467689.html
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    Man hit by teen cyclist, died

    By Elena Chong


    A COFFEESHOP assistant died about five hours after he was hit by a teenage cyclist at a carpark, a coroner's court heard.
    State Coroner Victor Yeo recorded a verdict of misadventure on the death of Mr Tay Kia Sim, 52, on March 17.
    The cyclist, then 14, was named a potential defendant at the inquiry into the death of Mr Tay.
    The court heard that the Secondary 3 student was cycling fast along the road in the open space carpark of Block 96 Henderson Road on March 16 evening when Mr Tay emerged from the side footway into his path.
    The boy, who is now 15, tried to brake but could not avoid hitting Mr Tay, who was thrown backwards and landed about 4m away. The cyclist also lost control of his bicycle and fell to the ground after the impact.
    Mr Tay was taken to Singapore General Hospital where he died of head injuries at about 12.55am.
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    Hmm ... lets see if there will be more of these case happen at Tampinese area. Since the MP there official "allow" cyclist to use the same pathment as pedestrian.

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    It is a potential hazard if the cyclist is riding at high speed.

    I could see more accident is waiting to happen.

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    Something has to be done or clarified with sidewalk/pedestrian usage as it's quite dangerous and annoying to have bikes on the sidewalks (and oftentimes bullying pedestrians out of the way, especially the older folks who feel they have the right-of-way).

    However, I find it even more pressing for the LTA to address MOTORBIKES on sidewalks. There are A LOT of motorcycles using sidewalks for parking, ramping up their motorcycles via the wheelchair access ramp and they ride their motorcycles on pedestrian lanes.

    Here in Tanjong Pagar road, you'll see a lot of motorcycles running at 5-10kph along the RCL building to avoid the ERP gantry. Quite dangerous to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zcf View Post
    Although most cyclist are quite responsible, but I personally saw quite a few cyclist which think they own the pavement and give no consideration to other pavement user

    http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_467689.html

    I hate it when cyclist ring their bells from behind & ask me to get outta the way

    Last month I got ran down by a cyclist at ECP, kena a fractured ankle & not a word of sorry

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    Once, me and my wife came back from market pushing trolley. Then came this lady cyclist from behind and keep ring her bicycle ring-bell and expected me to giveway for her. Until we reached to the traffic light, for out of sudden she yell and scolded me for blocking her way.
    Straight away I told her off, " did your father-mother ever tought you to ride your bicycle on the road instead of the pedestrian walkway?"

    Even my son nearly get knocked down by foreigners worker cyclist. Luckily he had a innitiative to say sorry.

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    once my niece step out of the lift, and a boy riding fast past her, inches from a knock!!! and my bro shouted at him, and the boy replied: so what!!

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    sigh... there goes all cyclist will then be painted with same colour
    I know a lot of cyclist flouted the rules, cycling reclessly fast, endangering others and himself
    I see a lot of rules broken by foreign workers from china & bangladesh - they just behave like in their country - those who employ them need to teach them the difference!
    I see a lot of rules broken by teenagers (local or otherwise) - well, make the parents pay!
    I see a lot of rules broken by old uncles! - what to do with these? may be just let the dying breed extinct

    I also see a lot of drivers and pedestrians break the rules, so what to do also?

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    conclusion :::::: SUCK THUMBS ..... there is nothing we can do ... just be careful.

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    Let not a bad cyclist spoils your day. If he is not responsible, he will run into trouble one day.

    I often see a group of bikers on certain roads, hogging two lanes as they chat and enjoyed the ride playing with each other, swaying their bikes from lane to lane. That leaves cars with either half a lane or one lane on a 3 lane road (eg Nicole highway). And if you honk them, they up their middle fingers. These are educated local bikers, probably some rich bankers or other professionals going on a showoff ride in full gear and a >$15k bike. These are to me the bad eggs of the society as they have no respect to other road users, vulgar and uncouth despite their smart outfit.

    In face, i give more respect to a indian national on a wobbly bike who sticks to his lane as he peddles to work humbly.

    It only take an elderly person with poor vision or someone doing sms on the phone while driving or a red plate car on triangle plate who hardly has much road experience to run over irresponsible bikers. There is no sorry for the dead. But then the greater hurt begins.

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    heck, its the motorbikes that are parked on the pathways that are a problem for me who is in wheelchair! sometimes i wish i could just push it down and leave a dent or worse, tear a hole in the gas tank!

    Worse is when on one side is a slope, and another side is the grass patch!

    Grrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by contaxable View Post
    I often see a group of bikers on certain roads, hogging two lanes as they chat and enjoyed the ride playing with each other, swaying their bikes from lane to lane.
    As cyclist I also condemn this. This is bad behaviour. No chatting while riding on the road. Must stop on the side and chat!

    Quote Originally Posted by contaxable View Post
    That leaves cars with either half a lane or one lane on a 3 lane road (eg Nicole highway). And if you honk them, they up their middle fingers. These are educated local bikers, probably some rich bankers or other professionals going on a showoff ride in full gear and a >$15k bike. These are to me the bad eggs of the society as they have no respect to other road users, vulgar and uncouth despite their smart outfit.
    They should be arrested. Cycling in highway is a violation of traffic rule.

    Quote Originally Posted by contaxable View Post
    In face, i give more respect to a indian national on a wobbly bike who sticks to his lane as he peddles to work humbly.
    I dunno about that, I see them also as endangering their own lives, the way they cycle among the cars, going against the traffic direction, not signalling and ringing bell (no bell how to ring). Also no lights. Sometimes at night they are very invisible!

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    Hmm... I gotta say I am actually ok with people cycling on the sidewalks, especially those aunties ferrying their kids back from sch or some ah peks here & there but they do have to understand that they do not own the sidewalk, sidewalks are meant for pedestrians only.

    Technically, bicycles are meant to be on the road only. So until the day cyclist on the sidewalks have a better education on that, I do not see an improvement on the current situation

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    I think the authorities shall provide more pathway for cyclist. Especially those common area towards the school or market area. Not just provide cyclist pathway at Parks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdzmr View Post
    I think the authorities shall provide more pathway for cyclist. Especially those common area towards the school or market area. Not just provide cyclist pathway at Parks.
    Set up ERP for bicycles

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    I think it is a rather complex situation, especially with more foreigners coming into Singapore.

    Nowadays, u see many people alighting at the front door of the bus, even though it is not crowded. The protocol used to be that passengers alight at the rear door, so that those who board the bus can quickly get in by the front door, and not cause further delay.

    It appears that many of these people are foreigners(students & adults) who are unaware of the custom of where to get in and out of the bus. To make matter worse, I am sure our own people also follow the same behaviour by alighting at the front door. Monkey see, monkey do. (A few incidents: I have also seen caucasians getting into the bus by the rear without paying)

    Just recently, I witnessed a local middle-age man(typical singaporean english accent) trying to alight at the front door when the bus was not at all crowded and there were quite a number of people boarding the bus at the bus stop. The driver refused to open the door and requested the man to alight at the rear.

    U guess what? The fellow made a scene by shouting loudly at the driver and refused to go to the rear even though it is just a few steps away; And there were people waiting outside, he just insisted on his way of action. The driver had no choice, but to open the door to let him out.

    I am not bashing foreigners, but feel that some kind of campaign should be carried out from time to time to educate the new comers, as new situation develops.
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    Riding on the road is a bigger hazard at the moment then it is riding on the pavement. Singapore drivers are just too scary especially with their big cars..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royale With Cheese View Post
    I hate it when cyclist ring their bells from behind & ask me to get outta the way

    Last month I got ran down by a cyclist at ECP, kena a fractured ankle & not a word of sorry
    The ang mo lady ah? Thought u felt shiok after that?

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    Quite correct to say that. If you are the more vulnerable one on the road, only wise to be kiasoo then to be sorry later on.

    Only sad sad thing is our people once they are less vulnerable, they think they are kings and have all the right to move non-stop, fast, straight from doos-step to door-step.

    So we have speeding, illegal movements, horning / ringing etc etc.

    News just say people should 'Adopt a zero-tolerance approach towards potential killer litter.'

    what about PROVEN lethal misbehaviour like speeding (eg test-drive car till flip the car and kill passenger, rushing and killed a 5 yr old girl) ? and others eg illegal movements (motorbike on footpaths!)?

    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan1975 View Post
    conclusion :::::: SUCK THUMBS ..... there is nothing we can do ... just be careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnlim View Post
    I think it is a rather complex situation, especially with more foreigners coming into Singapore.
    it can be made a simpler situation, if u juz apply the following principle:
    Give AND take, dun juz take and take.

    The road is not yours, neither is the footpath, nor the bus exits.

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