13th February 2004, 07:48 PM
Switching between OSs
Currently using XP, I wish to try Linux on my laptop, but i'm a computer-dunno-how person. I'm thinking of having XP n Linux together, and switch between them for some other uses.
Any online instructions on the web teaching us how to re-parition? And can I still keep my current doc as it is on both XP n Linux?
13th February 2004, 07:52 PM
I might be able to shed some light on this issue, Since i am doin' that for my company's Test servers/laptops.
Originally Posted by West_ray
If you are attending the Anniversary Celebration, look for me.
In the mean time, will look for online resources for you to refer to.
p/s you will most probably need partition magic if you do not wish to re-install, partition your hard drive the conventional way.
Hope that helped.
13th February 2004, 07:54 PM
oh kkk ~~
oh yah there are many kinds of Linux version right ???? Which one should i go for ??? and i can't find any d/ls at their website. So where can i find the d/ls??
13th February 2004, 08:03 PM
i think i found the site for d/ls, http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html but ..... wah cowz ... so many ........
13th February 2004, 08:05 PM
13th February 2004, 08:07 PM
waH cOolz !!! hey thanks waisj, i will take my time to read !
d/ls = i mean Downloads .... :P
13th February 2004, 08:10 PM
13th February 2004, 08:35 PM
If you kancheong to try you can buy or download Mandrake 9.2 from a local site and burn to the installation discs... try www.lugs.org.sg for the list of download mirrors. Downloading the first two discs should be enough I think... not sure what's on the third disc. Documentation?
It's one of the easiest distribution I have used. During installation it can help you partition your harddisk - though not always foolproof as I had problems with some installation where the NTFS partition of the existing WinXP setup failed to be resized (but no worries, your HDD won't be wiped out provided you didn't do anything wrong)
If you run a win95/98/me installation and have quite a bit of free space, you can try WinLinux.
Or try Knoppix, which is essentially a live Linux demo CD... but can be pretty slow as everything runs off the CD!
13th February 2004, 08:56 PM
Originally Posted by West_ray
actually, i would suggest getting another standalone PC/notebook to install linux...if you just wish to try..
what capacity is your HDD? nowadays, newer versions of linux can occupy alot of HD space...
13th February 2004, 08:59 PM
Im doing that too.
Using Lilo to boot.
Pm me for more information.
13th February 2004, 08:59 PM
13th February 2004, 09:03 PM
hmmm ... i have two harddisks. my C drive (NTFS) has 5GB left, while my D drive (FAT32) has 226mb left lehz .... i have not touch my D drive before, as it is used for backup purpose (as wat the sales guy told me) ....
Originally Posted by rncw
Last edited by West_ray; 13th February 2004 at 09:10 PM.
14th February 2004, 11:22 AM
Here's a few other options..
1 - Removable/Swappable hard disks... notebook users can buy additional hard disk housings to do that if you wish
2 - Use VMware (though it's a commercial software). It's perfect for testing due to the snapshot/revert feature..
3 - Try MandrakeMove it's a Mandrake distribution that can run directly off the CD... volatile files can be stored on a USB disk/thumbdrive
1st option is expensive and will require you to totally get out of the system, notebook harddisk 40GB is just over $200, housing can cost about $15-$40. Desktop harddisks & casing are cheaper
2nd option is more for companies who need to do a lot of testing. Vmware is about US$299 list price, though selling price in SG is about S$400
http://www.vmware.com/products/desktop/ws_features.html. It's perfect with a powerful computer with 2 screens... I just love it.. run windows on 1 screen & linux on the other... mouse moves between them.. can even share clipboard. I can run all different OSes.
3rd option seems promising... downloading it at the moment.
Last edited by willyfoo; 14th February 2004 at 11:29 AM.
14th February 2004, 12:17 PM
There's a free tool called ntfsresize (google it) which can repartition your hard disk. I still recommend partition magic for those not familiar with ntfsresize as you can really mess up your partitions if you aren't careful.
I use Debian Linux which at its minimal functionality takes up less than 200megs of space. Of course I have a compiler, java, X-windows and emacs which brings it up by another couple of hundred megs. If you use Gnome or KDE there's going to be a lot of bloat. Rathead Fedora (www.redhat.com) and Mandrake can go much beyond 1GB for a fully functional install. However you really need to have worked with Linux before installing Debian - it helps to know the ins and outs of it.
14th February 2004, 01:50 PM
Tried option 2, quite versatile and convenient without having to dual boot whenever you want to use the other OS, can even run in full screen.
Originally Posted by willyfoo
There's a FreeBSD version of MandrakeMove I believe, the CD's not with me now.
14th February 2004, 01:55 PM
Unlike Windows, a Linux distro usually allows you to customize the programs to be installed down to the very minor details. A minimal installation can be as small as <500mb.
Originally Posted by espn
For a desktop workstation, Install just _one_ X desktop of your choice e.g. gnome desktop, and not all of them would save you some space. If you don't use any of the development tools (i.e. to compile applications from source, etc.), you may uncheck them during installation too, and stick to the binary RPMs. Server applications which you won't need on a workstation, don't install them. Bulk of docs, man pages etc. if you are already familiar with Linux commands or intend to use the GUI 99% of the time, hardly you'd need them.
You can install additional features anytime later over FTP or CDROM, so its very flexible.
You may also leave a FAT32 partition for sharing data between the two. NTFS is recommended read-only in Linux.