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    Default Wise Men told me common mistake by Newbies

    Wise Man told me that I am making common newbie mistake:
    • Talk too much
    • Read too much
    • Shoot too little.

    纸上谈兵

    He said "Pros do not waste time chit chatting on forums. Pros are out there at ground-zero shooting."
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    Quote Originally Posted by artspraken View Post
    Wise Man told me that I am making common newbie mistake:
    • Talk too much
    • Read too much
    • Shoot too little.

    纸上谈兵
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    Quote Originally Posted by artspraken View Post
    Wise Man told me that I am making common newbie mistake:
    • Talk too much
    • Read too much
    • Shoot too little.

    纸上谈兵

    He said "Pros do not waste time chit chatting on forums. Pros are out there at ground-zero shooting."
    in life, too much of everything is bad, except $$$.

    remeber school days? do u go to lab to do expt w/o going through theory?

    why must one pass basic theory 1st, than go driving lesson & still must pass adv theory?

    btw, i think this thread shoould be in kopitiam.
    Last edited by denniskee; 4th December 2009 at 09:32 AM.
    photography makes one sees things from all angles.

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    shoot too little? how much is considered "not little" by the way????
    well at least got things to shoot and equipment to shoot with.......
    Nikon D700, N24-70 f2.8, N70-200 f2.8, Sigma 50mm f1.4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denniskee View Post
    in life, too much of everything is bad, except $$$.

    remeber school days? do u go to lab to do expt w/o going through theory?

    why must one pass basic theory 1st, than go driving lesson & still must pass adv theory?

    btw, i think this thread shoould be in kopitiam.
    Must learn to stike a balance in all aspect of doing things, then there is harmony all around. No wise men will ever fault on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artspraken View Post
    Wise Man told me that I am making common newbie mistake:
    • Talk too much
    • Read too much
    • Shoot too little.
    纸上谈兵

    He said "Pros do not waste time chit chatting on forums. Pros are out there at ground-zero shooting."
    Agreed,
    btw, let me check what thread you've started lately.........................

    Oh, I see..... ok, nevermind...


    got to go, my customers waiting for me to start session..
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    Agreed,
    btw, let me check what thread you've started lately.........................

    Oh, I see..... ok, nevermind...


    got to go, my customers waiting for me to start session..


    sun zhi & zu ge liang both also talk on paper than put into practical mah.
    Last edited by denniskee; 4th December 2009 at 09:53 AM.
    photography makes one sees things from all angles.

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    Hi, Theory teaches you why, Practise teaches you how. let's go to koptiam and talk
    OK, when shall we meet again,
    in thunder, lighning, or in the rain,
    after majong or after game.

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    Did the wise men ever tell you:

    - A person with the wise idea may not be the ideal person to execute it.
    - A person with the ideal skill may not be the one with the wise idea.
    - A wise idea + an ideal skill person may not be successful without demand.

    If there are no chatters, clubsnap is gone. Without interest, there is nothing special about photography skills and seniors. Without demand, the paid professional will go bust. Without friendship, there is no relation.

    Here is another wise words from me. There is always the need for balance and demand. If everyone are pros, makes not interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denniskee View Post
    in life, too much of everything is bad, except $$$.

    remeber school days? do u go to lab to do expt w/o going through theory?

    why must one pass basic theory 1st, than go driving lesson & still must pass adv theory?

    btw, i think this thread shoould be in kopitiam.


    Having too much $$$$ also bad..... willing to help you share some of the badness....

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    having lots of great photos but no one share it with
    will make a lonely great photographer with no one to see his great photos

    how sad

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    people who don't know, should do research
    if still don't know
    then should ask question instead of shooting blindly

    best is to make friends with ppl who know and go shooting together

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    Quote Originally Posted by diver-hloc View Post
    Having too much $$$$ also bad..... willing to help you share some of the badness....
    $$$ always not enough, cant share lar.
    photography makes one sees things from all angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artspraken View Post

    He said "Pros do not waste time chit chatting on forums. Pros are out there at ground-zero shooting."
    so did you tell the wise man that pros do not waste time dispensing advice, but they are always out there shooting?

    i once met the best photographer in the world, he looked at me and took a photo of my face. i asked him, if he had any advice to dispense, he ignored me and took a photo of a passing cat.

    at this point i was puzzled, so i shouted "hey i want some advice", then he switched to a macro lens and took a photo of my teeth.

    now i really understand how he gets his photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artspraken View Post
    Wise Man told me that I am making common newbie mistake:
    • Talk too much
    • Read too much
    • Shoot too little.

    纸上谈兵

    He said "Pros do not waste time chit chatting on forums. Pros are out there at ground-zero shooting."
    Wise Man once say life without talk and friendship is boring place to be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by artspraken View Post
    Pros are out there at ground-zero shooting."
    i went to look for this mystical place to find all the pros. no doubt they would just take more photos of parts of me when i ask them for advice.

    i googled "ground zero", and i came up with this photo.



    can you direct me where in the picture to find the pros?

    are they the little people clustered in the bottom left? where are their cameras??

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    Quote Originally Posted by artspraken View Post
    Wise Man told me that I am making common newbie mistake:
    • Talk too much
    • Read too much
    • Shoot too little.
    first one:
    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613113
    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=599600
    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=607369
    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=611366

    second one:
    http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=614429

    third one, no need to say, haven't seen any photo threads started by you!

    just having some fun here, don't emo me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    having lots of great photos but no one share it with
    will make a lonely great photographer with no one to see his great photos

    how sad
    the greatest photographer in the world passed me a message for you,

    he said "i am happy, i am at ground zero and i am taking all the great photos for myself to see. i am not talking to anyone, i am not reading anything, and i am shooting a lot. be happy for me! see my smiling face!"

    he then gave me a print of a self portrait.

    i have never seen him since:























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    lol. i have just been pwned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artspraken View Post
    lol. i have just been pwned.
    just some light hearted fun in the early morning.

    that said, different people have different lifestyles.

    maybe you might want to look at vivian maier:

    http://vivianmaier.blogspot.com/

    she might be a woman after your own heart

    but not every one is a vivian maier.

    I have some information to share about Vivian Maier. I met with two of the people Vivian was a nanny for in the 1950's and early 1960's today. They gave me some information that contradicts what I heard from other sources (this source is accurate). But, all in all, she is still somewhat of a mystery, even to them.

    Vivian came here from France in the early 1930's and worked in a sweat shop in New York when she was about 11 or 12. She was not Jewish but a Catholic, or as they said, an anti-Catholic. She was a Socialist, a Feminist, a movie critic, and a tell-it-like-it-is type of person. She learned English by going to theaters, which she loved. She wore a men's jacket, men's shoes and a large hat most of the time. She was constantly taking pictures, which she didn't show anyone.
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