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    I tried taking bokeh shot in daylight either it is over exposed or the model face is too dark to be seem...
    try setting up 1/4000 with F1.8
    can anyone guide me?

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    If face is too dark, just compensate +EV0.7 or +EV1.0; use aperture priority.
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    If it's overexposed, it's probably because sometimes it's hard to use f1.8 in hard daylight. Assuming Sunny 16 Rule at ISO 100, combinations would be as follows:
    f16, 1/100
    f8, 1/500
    f4, 1/2000
    f2, 1/8000 already.

    Perhaps using an ND filter would help if you really insist on using f1.8 to shoot.
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    Put on your CPL, maybe?
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    r u standing facing the sun?...

    if so, consider using a flash to lit up the model's face...

    it's kinda hard to jus say, show us a pic...

    u need to take note of the sun position also...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ry0suk1 View Post
    I tried taking bokeh shot in daylight either it is over exposed or the model face is too dark to be seem...
    try setting up 1/4000 with F1.8
    can anyone guide me?
    Try using Manual mode and meter the light on the model's face (the part where you wanna focus on) with your Aperture fixed at f1.8 and compensating that by changing either ISO and/or Shuttle Speed to ensure you get a balanced exposure.

    With "P", "AV" or "TV", the control goes to the CPU in the camera and sometimes you may not get what you desire.

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    Default Re: Help need for Bokeh shot!

    Quote Originally Posted by ry0suk1 View Post
    I tried taking bokeh shot in daylight either it is over exposed or the model face is too dark to be seem...
    try setting up 1/4000 with F1.8
    can anyone guide me?
    don't your camera has a exposure meter? and what did the meter says?
    or you have totally have no idea of what the camera meter for?
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    1. There is not such things as a "bokeh shot". It's a minor niggle, but I suggest you find out what bokeh actually means.
    2. What on earth are you doing shooting at f/1.8? Do you understand how thin your DOF will be?
    3. Post a sample pic then maybe we can help more.
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    Tried set the meter from -2 to +2 but if it's + the background will be over exposed. At - the face will become black. I not facing the sun the model is under shelter but background is super bright sun light.
    Is there other way to do bokeh without using f1.8?
    I need like half the body of the model...

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    if the background of the model is bright, u'll need to use fill light on your model, either by flash / reflector.
    without any fill light, the exposure to exposure your model properly will cause the bright background to be overexposed.

    btw it's not called bokeh shot.
    bokeh means the quality of the out of focus area.

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    Default Re: Help need for Bokeh shot!

    Quote Originally Posted by ry0suk1 View Post
    Tried set the meter from -2 to +2 but if it's + the background will be over exposed. At - the face will become black. I not facing the sun the model is under shelter but background is super bright sun light.
    Is there other way to do bokeh without using f1.8?
    I need like half the body of the model...
    I think you want a shot whereby the model is in focus and the background are out of focus am i right?

    Maybe you would like to post a pic with the EXIF intact so we can see how to help you?
    Next, tell us what lens are you using, how far is the model from you and how far is the background away from the model?

    Also, read more to understand the relation between shutter speed, ISO and aperture. Also, read ur user manual as well

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    Default Re: Help need for Bokeh shot!

    Quote Originally Posted by ry0suk1 View Post
    Tried set the meter from -2 to +2 but if it's + the background will be over exposed. At - the face will become black. I not facing the sun the model is under shelter but background is super bright sun light.
    Is there other way to do bokeh without using f1.8?
    I need like half the body of the model...
    the exposure difference of the subject and background are far too great to be record on sensor.

    a very simple solution is just move away from this location and find a place where the exposure the of your subject, and the exposure of the background not more than two stops different.
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    So I jus increase the aperture jus flash and get a background futher away from the model?

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    You need fill-light... Just try popping your in-built flash in auto-fp mode.

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    Default Re: Help need for Bokeh shot!

    Quote Originally Posted by ry0suk1 View Post
    Tried set the meter from -2 to +2 but if it's + the background will be over exposed. At - the face will become black. I not facing the sun the model is under shelter but background is super bright sun light.
    Is there other way to do bokeh without using f1.8?
    I need like half the body of the model...
    Change to a darker background.

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    My guess is that the background may be the reason for the underexposed subject (model)
    Use a fill flash to expose your subject.

    Else,

    Change to a location with a darker background.

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    Default Re: Help need for Bokeh shot!

    Maybe you can check your metering? Spot metering, centre weighted and matrix meteting.
    Sometimes I meet with such problem, after changing the metering modes, it's ok.

    It also depends on the kind of surroundings..
    If the background is dark and you want bokeh (unfocused lights), of course your model's face will be underexposed.
    If the background is facing the sun, and you want you background to be correct exposure, the model's face will be underexposed.

    I hope this can help you.
    Last edited by shaoken; 18th November 2009 at 05:45 PM.

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    Default Re: Help need for Bokeh shot!

    Quote Originally Posted by ry0suk1 View Post
    I tried taking bokeh shot in daylight either it is over exposed or the model face is too dark to be seem...
    try setting up 1/4000 with F1.8
    can anyone guide me?
    try Av mode, Center Weighted or Partial metering. works fine for me.

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