Anyone jump ship from canon to nikon here?

[sprockett]

Hi guys,
i've been a canon fan so far, but the recent d70 offering is making me consider joining the nikon crowd....

anyone here ex d60/10d user and jumped to D100/d1/2h?

Care to share which u think are better etc?

[Klipsch]

Yeah unless you are seriously loaded and stuff and just want to change system for satisfaction. Else just be happy with what you have now. As what Cheesecake had already mentioned, new cameras will just keep coming from both ends so probably you will feel this way again 9 months down the road.

[munwei]

Actually, I'm one of those who jumped ship from the D30 to the S2. Managed to sell the D30 before the D60 et al rolled along.

I switched because the S2 offered very good colour. Am using the 24-120 VR, which is an excellent lens. Have been happy with the results thus far.

Cheers!

MW

[henavs]

To each his own...

If u personally think that the advantage of one system far outweight another one, no one is stopping u...

At the current stage, its just so unpredictable...Nikon may be good at this stage, but the next stage Canon might offer much better stuff...

Personally, I'm feeling positive bout Nikon now...I'm used to be A Nikon fan boy...Nostalgic feeling aside, Nikon does have advantage over my current Canon system, such as their new 18-70, then the ultra wide 12-24 & the good ol' 24-120 VR...They're all good lenses...Moreover Nikon uses the lens mount that can still accept some of the oldies, which I may still be using...Their new D70 & D2H are also offering wireless flash control, yeah!

But then again, I've got a good Canon system complete with some dream lenses already...What I should do now is shoot shoot shoot instead of looking at what the neighbour is offering...

If possible, just hold on to ur system & use it wisely...

[Kit]

Then when the next Canon camera comes along, are you going to jump back? And the same when the next next Nikon camera comes along. And the same when the next next Canon comes along...................

I can tell you, its not worth it. Why I know? Been there, done that.

[AJ23]

Jump jump here, jump jump there, good exercise.

Again, buy what one needs, change what one must, shoot what one have, and don't bother what others think.

[Kit]

Originally Posted by AJ23 Jump jump here, jump jump there, good exercise. Again, buy what one needs, change what one must, shoot what one have, and don't bother what others think.

Heh!! If he doesn't care about what other people think, why did he start this in the first place?

[espn]

Guys, chill out.

I'm sure sprockett is interested in changing but he just wants some encouragement in doing so. So let's just advise him to stay faithful to one side and don't think of changing anymore

Btw, Canon EOS 1Ds II is out check out Canon subforum!

sprockett, what you waiting for ? Jump jump jump!!!


On a serious side of note, if you're not a current SLR user, you're free to jump because you don't have any equipment to bind you to the make. If you're already using Canon lenses, stick to it, unless it's a piece or two. Specs changes and taunts people everytime. Just stick to one.

[sprockett]

hahah hi guys! to tell u the truth, i sold ALLLL my canon stuff abt 3 mnths ago liao... save for my 420ex and 550ex... Basically, i realised i wouldnt be shooting for the last 3 months of 2003, so i decided heck, sell all, and wait till PMA... i was originally going to save up for a full 10D + dream lens system, but now that Nikon is coming up with some good stuff too, i was thinking of jumping ship (even though im very used to canon stuff). Jumping ship isnt that big a deal for me, coz i only have my 420ex and 550ex left...

so right now its either 10D, 10D succesor(if its announced), or D70.... and im seriously contemplating the D70.... Unless the 10D successor (if there is even one) is SIGNIFICANTLY better than the D70, or if its at the same price, will i consider it... right now my plans for a 10d are shelved.. (unless really cheap lah)

the more i browse nikon stuff, the more im getting tempted.. u guys r rite, with the 18-70 + the superb 12-24 (HALLO CANON??? WHERE IS UR EQUIVALENT!!) D70 looks about right... not to mention the superb price point...

never the less, having used canon all teh while, i don't know if i will be able to adapt to nikon....
and 1D mark II confirm out of my budget.... so sad.

[espn]

U can get the following in nikon...

12-24, 24-120VR, 70-200VR u're done! Heehee.

or 17-35, 28-70, 70-200VR

Multiple combos!

[d7t3]

Originally Posted by sprockett i've been a canon fan so far, but the recent d70 offering is making me consider joining the nikon crowd....

bet canon will answer with a corresponding new model soon! they seem to me to be more responsive to customer demands (so far anyway)

[Watcher]

Originally Posted by sprockett hahah hi guys! to tell u the truth, i sold ALLLL my canon stuff abt 3 mnths ago liao... save for my 420ex and 550ex... Basically, i realised i wouldnt be shooting for the last 3 months of 2003, so i decided heck, sell all, and wait till PMA... i was originally going to save up for a full 10D + dream lens system, but now that Nikon is coming up with some good stuff too, i was thinking of jumping ship (even though im very used to canon stuff). Jumping ship isnt that big a deal for me, coz i only have my 420ex and 550ex left...

In that case, you should just sell them and jump ship. You have almost no commitment there.

Originally Posted by sprockett so right now its either 10D, 10D succesor(if its announced), or D70.... and im seriously contemplating the D70.... Unless the 10D successor (if there is even one) is SIGNIFICANTLY better than the D70, or if its at the same price, will i consider it... right now my plans for a 10d are shelved.. (unless really cheap lah)

It seems that Nikon caught Canon by surprise. Instead of just upping the pixel count, Nikon dramatically raise the quality, features and handling of the D2xx (incl D70) product. See the features and handling for D2H vs 1D2. This round (or this year), Canon cannot respond in time as the product cycle for DSLRs is at minimum, 10 months to 1 year (R&D, testing, production, shipping), longer for the higher end models; see D60->10D & 1D->1D2. Do it too quickly, the consumers will never forgive you, unlike the P&S market with far less commitment.

Originally Posted by sprockett the more i browse nikon stuff, the more im getting tempted.. u guys r rite, with the 18-70 + the superb 12-24 (HALLO CANON??? WHERE IS UR EQUIVALENT!!) D70 looks about right... not to mention the superb price point... never the less, having used canon all teh while, i don't know if i will be able to adapt to nikon.... and 1D mark II confirm out of my budget.... so sad.

I'm afraid you have to wait long long for the 12-24 on the EF mount. Canon not even have it on design! See what Nikon offers you; follow the either set that ESPN had listed out and you'll be set!

[AJ23]

Originally Posted by d7t3 bet canon will answer with a corresponding new model soon! they seem to me to be more responsive to customer demands (so far anyway)

Yeah, you bet, Canon will come out with more more more models, but not more more more features and capability.

[Watcher]

Originally Posted by Kit Then when the next Canon camera comes along, are you going to jump back? And the same when the next next Nikon camera comes along. And the same when the next next Canon comes along................... I can tell you, its not worth it. Why I know? Been there, done that.

It seems that Canon is on the bleeding edge, producing very new stuff but wants the buyers to do product chasing .

To me, both companies produce products that makes me want to buy them (or else they can fire both their marketing divisons ). But with a longer product cycle and better long term strategy (where is the eye-driven focussing system on any of the Canon cameras in the past 1.5 years?!?), Nikon is making me into a very loyal customer. They seem to be able to understand their customers better and unwilling to cast aside customers unless they have to.

[Watcher]

Originally Posted by d7t3 bet canon will answer with a corresponding new model soon! they seem to me to be more responsive to customer demands (so far anyway)

Like AJ said, more models but just a rehash or repackaging of existing features. The product features for the coming 6-9 months are more or less fixed, the strategy dictated 1+ years ago.

Responsive? or willing to make the consumers be guinea pigs? See the D60/10D debacle for example. Just desparate to ensure that they don't get left out, they released the half-baked D60 that was replaced by the D10 8-9 months later. Imagine if you paid for S$3000+ for a Microsoft product, 9 months later, a more robust and features-rich version comes up without a upgrade version available . The Toshiba e740/e750 is an (much cheaper) example that made quite a few people refusing to buy Toshiba PDAs again...

[espn]

I'm waiting to see if Canon will release a 20D and 400D

[mpenza]

Competitiors leap frog each other from time to time. if they don't do so, they get marginalised. I believe both Nikon and Canon have R&D teams which try to forecast the future consumer demands and aim to meet them at the right time.

How about comparing with a company like Intel or AMD? The release new products throughout the year and no one complains.

[Watcher]

Originally Posted by espn I'm waiting to see if Canon will release a 20D and 400D

They eventually will. The point is at what price with what features?

[espn]

Oh I do, but not on this forum

[Watcher]

Originally Posted by mpenza How about comparing with a company like Intel or AMD? The release new products throughout the year and no one complains.

Difference is that between each newer product in each line, there is only incremental difference in terms of features. The speed, the cache size, etc. But between say 16bit->32bit or 32bit->64 bit the move is about 10-15 years each time...