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    Hi Photography Lovers!

    Singapore Discovery Centre is currently hosting a Photo (and video) Contest called "SG Tidbits 365" on http://www.sgtidbits365.sg/ till Dec'09.

    Contestants simply need to submit photos and/ videos depicting an interesting aspect of Singapore and stand to win fantastic prizes as below.

    1st Prize: iPhone


    2nd Prize:
    Nintendo Wii


    3rd Prize: Holga Lomo Camera


    With your keen photography skills, and eye on a fascinating fact about Singapore - this contest would just be apt (interesting) for you! (Not to mention the exciting prizes!)

    All the best!

    Cheers.
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    Sian liao after reading this:

    6. All entries submitted shall become the property of SDC and can be used or reused in any manner as SDC deems fit including, but not limited to, sharing with its partners and featuring on online or offline publicity materials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoiNoi View Post
    Sian liao after reading this:

    6. All entries submitted shall become the property of SDC and can be used or reused in any manner as SDC deems fit including, but not limited to, sharing with its partners and featuring on online or offline publicity materials.

    Yah.. another new method to have many free photography services and unlimited photos . Those pics nv won 1 also become the property of SDC......
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    when it's going to end dis kind of thing ....sianz....

    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by garagez View Post
    when it's going to end dis kind of thing ....sianz....

    cheers
    doubt it will... unless a law has been passed
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    Spend $1000 to buy prizes, can get a ton of photos. Nearly the same cost as employing a professional photographer to take the photos for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garagez View Post
    when it's going to end dis kind of thing ....sianz....

    cheers
    I hope someone will step up and fight for it one day.
    For now, the best we can do is to boycott such competitions with such lousy clauses.
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    Besides the copyright issue of the photos submitted, another thing i dislike about some photo competition is that they allow public voting.. In this contest, public voting counts for 40% of the judging criteria (40% is too much)...

    Public voting is only a measure of how popular you are and not how nice your photos are... Check out come of the entries which had already garnished over 100 votes... they most probably will be the winner already... so, no point joining unless you have 200 over family and friends to vote for you...

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    Hi all,

    Greetings from SDC and thanks for the valuable feedback - we hear you. We are definitely not here to get any free photos, we may just need to use the photos to promote this campaign from time to time. However, you guys have pointed out something we might have missed out. Thus we promise that proper credit mention will be given to the photographer should we use his/her photos.

    Part of this contest is to have relevant good captions accompanying photos or video clips to share another interesting/unknown facts about Singapore and that is why SDC reserves 60% of rights to determine the winning entry. Hope to see all the entries soon. Take care and keep your feedback coming

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    So am I right entries submitted shall become the property of SDC? And if SDC wanted to use the non winning images, proper credit mention will be given to the photographer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGtidbits365 View Post
    Hi all,

    Greetings from SDC and thanks for the valuable feedback - we hear you. We are definitely not here to get any free photos, we may just need to use the photos to promote this campaign from time to time. However, you guys have pointed out something we might have missed out. Thus we promise that proper credit mention will be given to the photographer should we use his/her photos.

    Part of this contest is to have relevant good captions accompanying photos or video clips to share another interesting/unknown facts about Singapore and that is why SDC reserves 60% of rights to determine the winning entry. Hope to see all the entries soon. Take care and keep your feedback coming
    I understand the point you're coming from. As an event organiser, even though you may have no intention to sell the entries as stock photos, you would definitely want to play safe, and thus putting such clauses.

    However, from photographers point of view, if their photographs are to be used, they would want some credit/settlement as well. Thus the clause has to be fair.

    Its only fair that the winning entries shall belong to the organizers, and since they will be receiving prizes/awards. In this case, its great for both parties. And its also pretty much understandable, that the event organisers will award photos that they can use for their publicity as well. And the winning photographers will be more than willing to let you use their images for publicity. Its good for the winning photographers as well.


    However, if there's an image the organizers would like to use, but yet still do not think its worthy of a prize winner; in this case most photographers would rather not let you use it for your free publicity.


    In my personal opinion:

    "6. All entries submitted shall become the property of SDC and can be used or reused in any manner as SDC deems fit including, but not limited to, sharing with its partners and featuring on online or offline publicity materials."

    thats one of the most ridiculous clauses I've seen among the photography competitions.
    • By submitting your entry; not only SDC owns the right (also does not mention whether the photographer loses the rights to his own photo, and the way the phrase is very likely that the photographer will have to let go of their copyright just by submitting the image for the competition?)...it has to be very clear who owns the rights to the image.

    • ...but also they have the rights to share with their partners (does not also describe whether the word "sharing" involves money/payment/exchange) as they will., for publicity (publicity for what/who) material. And what do their "partners", do with the photos? Will they give credits? or will they abuse the images? or will they sell the photos?

    Its bad enough the first part of the clause, but the second part makes it the worst clause ive seen. Apologies for my blunt delivery., but sorry., Im really getting sick and tired of photo competitions with such rules.
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    Hi all

    Once again, we thank you for all your valuable feedback. We understand your concerns and have since made revisions to our T&Cs. Take care and hope to see your entries soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waiaung View Post
    In my personal opinion:

    "6. All entries submitted shall become the property of SDC and can be used or reused in any manner as SDC deems fit including, but not limited to, sharing with its partners and featuring on online or offline publicity materials."

    thats one of the most ridiculous clauses I've seen among the photography competitions.
    • By submitting your entry; not only SDC owns the right (also does not mention whether the photographer loses the rights to his own photo, and the way the phrase is very likely that the photographer will have to let go of their copyright just by submitting the image for the competition?)...it has to be very clear who owns the rights to the image.

    • ...but also they have the rights to share with their partners (does not also describe whether the word "sharing" involves money/payment/exchange) as they will., for publicity (publicity for what/who) material. And what do their "partners", do with the photos? Will they give credits? or will they abuse the images? or will they sell the photos?

    Its bad enough the first part of the clause, but the second part makes it the worst clause ive seen. Apologies for my blunt delivery., but sorry., Im really getting sick and tired of photo competitions with such rules.
    lol, then maybe photographer can put watermark with footnotes below.
    "Water marks will be removed if it become a Winning photos"
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    lol, then maybe photographer can put watermark with footnotes below.
    "Water marks will be removed if it become a Winning photos"

    Good 1 bro !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weird Guy View Post
    Good 1 bro !!!
    Quote Originally Posted by NoiNoi View Post
    ya, good idea ah?! But the entry will might automatic disqualify
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    http://www.sgtidbits365.sg/youthcontestofficialt&c.pdf

    The revised T & C:

    6. All submitted photos’ rights will belong to the original author.
    However, SDC can use or reuse the photos SDC deems fit including,
    but not limited to, sharing with its partners and featuring on online
    or offline publicity materials. Credits will be given to the authors if
    SDC would like to publish any of the photos.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonlcs View Post
    http://www.sgtidbits365.sg/youthcontestofficialt&c.pdf

    The revised T & C:

    6. All submitted photos’ rights will belong to the original author.
    However, SDC can use or reuse the photos SDC deems fit including,
    but not limited to, sharing with its partners and featuring on online
    or offline publicity materials. Credits will be given to the authors if
    SDC would like to publish any of the photos.


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    what's the diff? Me see no difference

    Cos so far, those more "gentlemen" T&C will only on WINNiNG PHOTOS not ALL SUBMITTED photos. So can see the diff now?
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    Exactly!

    Why include all photos that are not good enough to win awards?

    If they are not good enough, why use them on brochures or websites?

    With that clause, they and their partners get a pool of free images.

    Partners could be anyone: design houses, advertisers, in-house designers,
    anybody that they designate as partners.



    Quote Originally Posted by Tupi Guy View Post
    what's the diff? Me see no difference

    Cos so far, those more "gentlemen" T&C will only on WINNiNG PHOTOS not
    ALL SUBMITTED photos. So can see the diff now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupi Guy View Post
    what's the diff? Me see no difference

    Cos so far, those more "gentlemen" T&C will only on WINNiNG PHOTOS not ALL SUBMITTED photos. So can see the diff now?
    Agree.
    This clause should apply only to winning works.

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