Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 77

Thread: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

  1. #1

    Default PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    My friend and I were discussing earlier and had a bit of a disagreement.

    I thought for PES C2 status NSmen, there is this rule about them serving only 13 years cycle? But my friend seems to disagree and thinks they serve the same duration as other NSmen for their reservist training.

    If my "theory" is right, does it mean after 13 years (from the date of ORD), an NSman will be free from reservist training whether he has served 7 high-key exercises or not?

  2. #2

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    No my young friend.

    You must serve/record 7 high key + 3 low key to be converted to MR (Mindef reserve). After which no need IPPT and or RT... but still under reserve..until you reach age 40 for any ranks expect officer which have to be under reserve till age 50
    Last edited by happyranchu; 28th October 2009 at 10:49 PM.

  3. #3

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    i believe he's asking for those who are pes c status and lower. Correct me if im wrong.
    One-North Explorers
    | Leave nothing but footprints, take nothing but photos |

  4. #4
    Senior Member limwhow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Life revolves arOnd East Coast
    Posts
    7,049

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    No difference, PES C or otherwise. The 7 high-key + 3 low-key rule still holds.
    ... oh, and er... the TS, 35 yr old already, not too young any more lah... right?
    Last edited by limwhow; 28th October 2009 at 11:59 PM.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Still wondering where I belong
    Posts
    3,434

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    now is 10 yr cycle... minimum 7 high key... u can have 10 low key and still u wont MR... the important thing is to go for all the high key, miss low key is ok...
    Gallery|Baby gallery
    I have become an expert in cleaning poo

  6. #6

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    stop counting ur ICT and serve until receive ur MR letter....learnt my lesson of counting down
    and being given excuse......I've done 8 high key ICT already, even received the Hamilton watch and medal...still never MR...Mindef claim 7 high key is minimum, so they can call u for more...
    Nikon D700, N24-70 f2.8, N70-200 f2.8, Sigma 50mm f1.4.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    BB West
    Posts
    2,184

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    Quote Originally Posted by RezzShaz View Post
    stop counting ur ICT and serve until receive ur MR letter....learnt my lesson of counting down
    and being given excuse......I've done 8 high key ICT already, even received the Hamilton watch and medal...still never MR...Mindef claim 7 high key is minimum, so they can call u for more...
    Yup, u done all your HK but what abt LK? LK needed also. Ask ur unit to check for u. Me completed liao, MR on 16th Oct 09.
    Only Sony device mostly, haha!

  8. #8

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    what if you are pes E? any minimum years to wait out?
    One-North Explorers
    | Leave nothing but footprints, take nothing but photos |

  9. #9

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    Quote Originally Posted by sbs99 View Post
    what if you are pes E? any minimum years to wait out?
    PES E ROD after 2 years of fulltime NSF isn't it??

    PES C2 NSman cycle isn't it 5 years instead?

  10. #10

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    Quote Originally Posted by soons View Post
    PES E ROD after 2 years of fulltime NSF isn't it??

    PES C2 NSman cycle isn't it 5 years instead?
    not sure for pes E but PES C2 need to serve full 10 yrs cycle
    Nikon D700, N24-70 f2.8, N70-200 f2.8, Sigma 50mm f1.4.

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    bukit batok
    Posts
    1,478

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    C2 definitely need to serve 10 years.
    7 high + 3 low.

  12. #12
    Moderator nightwolf75's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    really MORE diaper changes
    Posts
    17,839
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    C2 needs to serve the 7 hi and 3 lo cycle. me is C2L9 (no thanks to a bum knee)... just dun need IPPT only. other than dat, still have to go chiong with my brigade.

    actually... i din know PES E dun need to serve leh... i got a few clerks in my brigade who are PES E... dun tell me they are NS boys?
    If Life worked on auto mode then manual mode for photography would have never existed. ― Deeksha Mittal

  13. #13
    Senior Member Virgo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    West of Singapore
    Posts
    4,816

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    A lot of us have this misconception of 7 high keys and 3 low keys will add up to a total of 10 years. This is entirely wrong!

    Whether you serve a total of 10 years or 15 or 20 depends entirely on your unit. A total of 10 cycles does not mean the entire duration will take only 10 years, as the unit may not have reservists recall every year. It really depends on each individual unit.

    However, I can say most infantry units will try to have at least a recall every year. This is because by the time we reach 35, most of us sure have some pain here or there.

    Anyway, younger generations considered lucky liao. Only 10 cycles. I served under the old rule, 13!
    Last edited by Virgo; 29th October 2009 at 10:19 AM.
    Kind Regards
    My Picture Website

  14. #14

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    Then I wonder why they call them "cycles"... what's the point?

    For eg, as RezzShaz experienced, after 8 High Keys, he has still not MR!!

    So for MINDEF, they can call you up for 6 HK, 3 LK till you're 39.5 years old, you still have not MR! So aren't those so-called 10-year or 13-year cycles very misleading?

    It could be past 15 years and an NSman could possibly still not have MR.

  15. #15

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    hmmm, juz wondering

    is it possible for a unit to call back an NSMan for countless low keys and only 1 or 2 High Keys for many years and when he is nearing 40, still have not MR?

    Sounds depressing!

  16. #16
    Moderator nightwolf75's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    really MORE diaper changes
    Posts
    17,839
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    Then I wonder why they call them "cycles"... what's the point?

    For eg, as RezzShaz experienced, after 8 High Keys, he has still not MR!!

    So for MINDEF, they can call you up for 6 HK, 3 LK till you're 39.5 years old, you still have not MR! So aren't those so-called 10-year or 13-year cycles very misleading?

    It could be past 15 years and an NSman could possibly still not have MR.
    yeah. my first Hi-key came after almost 15yrs after i ROD... so imagine now i am like 34 and only just did my 1st hi-key last yr. apparently, i am not the only one.

    it is due to the staffing needs of the unit lah. i got a fren who got his first hi-key as a RP... when he was 40yrs old. do until he was 45yrs b4 Mindef gave him his watch. but virgo is rite. generally infantry units go thru their cycles pretty fast. it is the support units dat seems quite slow. i got frens/colleagues who are in transport/signals etc.. who are still waiting to be called. go figure....

    just do lor. treat is as a holiday.
    If Life worked on auto mode then manual mode for photography would have never existed. ― Deeksha Mittal

  17. #17
    Senior Member Virgo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    West of Singapore
    Posts
    4,816

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    Then I wonder why they call them "cycles"... what's the point?

    For eg, as RezzShaz experienced, after 8 High Keys, he has still not MR!!

    So for MINDEF, they can call you up for 6 HK, 3 LK till you're 39.5 years old, you still have not MR! So aren't those so-called 10-year or 13-year cycles very misleading?

    It could be past 15 years and an NSman could possibly still not have MR.
    Yes. It's sort of misleading here. If your unit falls under the very 'ON' type, then it should fall under the standard 10-year cycle or 13-year cycle. Other than that, it should be just called the 10-cycle or 13-cycle, e.g., I've served my 10-cycle reservists. Year does not mean anything here. Anyway, MINDEF's financial year is not our calendar year. It falls from 1 Apr to 31 Mar. Not sure it has changed though, as MINDEF don't want me since a few years back.
    Kind Regards
    My Picture Website

  18. #18
    Senior Member Virgo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    West of Singapore
    Posts
    4,816

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    hmmm, juz wondering

    is it possible for a unit to call back an NSMan for countless low keys and only 1 or 2 High Keys for many years and when he is nearing 40, still have not MR?

    Sounds depressing!
    Not possible, as I have yet to see such a case. However, there are exceptional cases, e.g. one has deferred his unit's training every time with a valid reason. Until his actual unit retires, he still has not serve his term, then MINDEF will allocate him to another unit, and the cycle starts again!

    So it's not advisable to defer training unless absolute necessary, especially those 'chiong sua' type. I rather go through thick and thin with my camp mates, rather than with those whom I'm not familiar with.
    Kind Regards
    My Picture Website

  19. #19
    Senior Member Virgo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    West of Singapore
    Posts
    4,816

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    Yes, another possibility is what Nightwolf75 has mentioned. One gets recalled not immediately he ORD, but many years after that. In that case, the reservist period will be stretched till God knows when.
    Kind Regards
    My Picture Website

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Still wondering where I belong
    Posts
    3,434

    Default Re: PES C2 - 13 years NSman cycle??

    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    hmmm, juz wondering

    is it possible for a unit to call back an NSMan for countless low keys and only 1 or 2 High Keys for many years and when he is nearing 40, still have not MR?

    Sounds depressing!
    my last in camp has a few nearing 40 yr old comrades... they did many low keys, end of the day, u have to clock the minimum high key to qualify for MR... dun believe u can try go for all the low key and miss all the high key, ur S1 branch will tell u cannot MR, unless u 45 liao...

    as mention, depends on ur unit...many of those who did not get call up as often are usually from brigade or support unit... or their call up are just low key affairs which is too bad...

    my elder bro told me his camp got ppl owe 0.25 cycle cannot MR while the rest all MR... i dunno how true since i dunno how u can serve 0.75 cycle in the first place...
    Gallery|Baby gallery
    I have become an expert in cleaning poo

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •