I feel there is nothing morally wrong with going for paid shoots that consist mostly of ladies that are good looking. Men are attracted to beautiful women just as women as attracted to the Alpha Male, that is how we have evolved after thousands of years, ways of filter and elimination to see how it is best suited to pass on your genes.
I have gone for a number of organized shoots myself and i find most of them to be quite enjoyable, to mingle with other people, talking about everyday life, exchange pointers on how we can shoot better pictures if the conditions are not that good, try out new lenses. There are much more that goes on than just picture taking. Shooting relatives and friends can be done, but we should enlarge our social circle and meet more people, never know when you will bump into them outside of a shoot and need their help.
Regarding people who goes to these shoots to fulfill their sexual fantasy, based on the amount of money spent on these shoots, wouldn't it be more fulfilling to use that amount of money to visit a prostitute and get more sexually? Unless the person has some other kinds of fetish.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheryl, I didn't know you like STOMP too!
I'm a regular @ STOMP (Singapore Seen)..
Btw, Xiaxue is someone you should ignore. She likes to pick trivial things up make it big..
Just take it that she is just jealous!
Because nobody organise for photographers to shoot her (to attract attention).
Last edited by shaoken; 27th October 2009 at 08:01 PM.
i dont think it will be easy to find prostitutes whom are better looking than those models (take our very own pretty/hot cs models for example) plus, although guys are naturally "lecherous" in one way or another, diseases such as AIDS, HIV still crosses the minds of those whom are able to think. AND, is it easier to explain to your gf/wife saying that you're frequenting prostitues or shooting pretty girls in the name of art? i think the latter.
and.. i am really not THAT against shooting pretty girls.
i do agree with you that group shoots are very fun (joined before) and it is actually quite a healthy hobby. BUT, i dont think same goes for those (not all) lingerie shoots or whatsoever.
many GWCs join lingerie shoots and justify this by saying Victoria Secret's models are in lingeries as well. sometimes i feel like spitting at their faces, "yes i will only understand if you can shoot as WELL as them, if not its just an excuse." i heard from a photographer that girls with clothes on are easier to shoot than girls with less clothes / no clothes on.. isnt that true? if so, shouldnt them be practising by shooting girls with clothes on first?
Last edited by cheryl852; 27th October 2009 at 08:05 PM.
I just left a comment at her blog...
Wonder if she even dares to admit and approve my post
"Funny thing about your post is.
What has shooting to deal with penises?
The entire concept starts going wrong when you start having the wrong idea for certain things.
A Male that sells bra. He's just doing for a living. Doing what he is good at. I know in your mind he must be taking advantages.
How about a famous photographer shooting lingerie for commercial purpose?
Are chance going to fall from the sky? They spend money to shoot so that they can gain experience and hopefully someone can realise their dream someday.
Everyone has their dream.
A girl that wants to be a model has to start from free lancing and hope someone discover her talent.
A photographer that was to be famous has to start shooting free lance, be it anything under the sun. And the dumbest thing about what you're posting is that, have you seen their portfolio?
How do you know they didn't shoot their family members, plants and bugs or whatever?
A true photographer has to master all.
I wouldn't say you are jealous cause nobody wants to shoot you. Despite may it be a fact or not.
But the pathetic thing which you did not realised is, you're just doing the same thing. Attracting attentions cause " Oh i ran out of topic to type today, why not find something that i can dig about for my attention seeking desire?"
P.S. About that whole armpit fats thing? There's something call Adobe Photoshop? Just tell you if you didn't heard about it. And it is capable of doing anything?
P.S.S. You ain't know nothing about photography. 1stly why not try answering this. What is a composition? What is a one third rule? Take your time for i mean no offense. Someone people were born talented. Some where normal. Few are retards. "
From the way she writes, one may think that she is still a green horn. But, in actual fact, she is just commenting and critcising something that is so natural - i.e. healthy guys like pretty ladies, just like bees like to buzz around flowers. I would be a nerd if I solely photograph arty farty things like architecture and eyes of a bee. Maybe when I get older if you know what I mean.
only u will know if u r a perv or not, am i right? U know why u shoot girls in bikini lying in a hotel bed spreading eagles. Only U will know.
does it matter what we think or what XX think? debating about such moral issues will be quite fruitless I reckon.
Last edited by lancey; 27th October 2009 at 08:18 PM.
Can post at her blog?? I didn't know..
I think if I post, she will be very !@#$...
somethings are just "taboos" in a way or another. do you prefer telling your friends you are a "fashion photographer" or a "lingerie photographer"? if you say the latter, some might (esp female friends)
sex with your wife is okay. but having fantasies about other girls (whom are mostly attached) sounds kind of wrong.. it sounds like a milder version of
1. having sexual fantasies about a pre-puberty girl
2. raping your own daughter.
for 1 & 2, some people act out of their own nature as well. but they are just considered socially unacceptable, no matter how one debates.
OT.. photographers whom turn their sexual fantasies real (be it intentionally or because they went out of control)
To photographers whom she used your pic.
You can take legal action, she plagiarised the pics!
she's good for a laugh.... free entertainment on CS! she's been blogging a long while, all of us know of her either as a comfy shoe or an irritating gnat. don't think she will become even more popular as a result of her blog. as it is, she is treading the fine line between a foulmouthed tirade and outright defamation. if she ever gets sued, and who knows, she might secretly be wishing for that added notoriety, then she will have even more to yap about.
she is self-pwning herself.