anyways.. people got money, why stop them from buying what they want to buy..
might as well say rich people who cannot appreciate an expensive tv should not buy it. rich people who do not appreciate expensive watch should not buy it. rich people who do not appreciate good food should not buy it.
i think the issue isn't with people having it. it's having it and thinking that they are very pr0 by nature of their equipment.. and then defending themselves when told that the pictures are not up to par.
I think it is for the professional image, even if not for the creative options. For example, when shooting passport photo in Singapore. You would go to a studio which have a FF camera with a prime lens mounted on a tripod. In India, the tiny studio will ask you to sit down, straighten up, smile. Then he whip out his PnS, half bend his knees and "click". Done. I am laughing to myself, WTF!
Especially in this digtal edge when almost every other guy have a 5D/D700/A900, it is important to at least be seen with something of pro calibre. I have friends who swear and curse at their reception photographer when the photo is not well taken. One of the things mentioned is the gear aren't even up to par. And one of the items on the checklist now is to check what camera and lenses the photographer will be using.
I guess if you are a pro. It makes sense to invest in a pro calibre system. Better tools open up doors for more things.
To answer TS: I think Pro want convenience and fast...so the very pratical wide aperture zooms, AF , IS/VR/OS/VC lenses are desirable. Rich hobbyist....maybe the entire collection of Carl Zeiss and the Leica MF lenses. I am not rich but am impressed with the built and quality of these lenses so have started on a couple of affordable ones. Afterall a metal lens without electronics will outlast any plastic AF lenses.
Last edited by ManWearPants; 19th October 2009 at 07:13 PM.
Interesting thread. Let's say a person is on a tight budget and like to do lots of portrait photography. What is the must-get lens to get the job done?
I've heard many who says a prime lens 50mm/1.8 is enough for the job but looking at the Nikkor Lenses - the price difference between a 1.8 and a 1.4 is not that scary. Would a 1.4 be a better bet in terms of versatility and usefulness? Don't mean to hijack this thread but just curious. Thanks everybody.
To me, thats only Pratical Photographer & Non-Pratical/Ignorance Photographers.
A pratical photographer, pro or hobbyist, will pick the correct/cost effective equipment he needs to capture what he wants and produce good result with them.
A non-pratical/ignorance photographer will buy the most expensive lens money can buy and hope to achieve good result with it.
My 2 cents
Playing with M43.
going to be another long thread
one week of inactivity (PEACE) here: http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=564801
and now it's going to be this
shud be kopitiam
I know a professional race car driver that drives a kancil in his races (to put bread on the table).
Do you think he has any bread on the table? How about meat?
they don't spend on top end gear,
they don't shoot RAW,
they don't process the images, just chose 300 photo, print, slot into album, deliver,
they don't meet customers,
they don't need to advertise,
their customers want something cheap
their customers want something same as their friends/cousin/silings
so their customers each of them will get similar poses/set up
since their customers are referred by somebody and they will recommend him to others too
that's how they able to shoot so many weddings and charge so cheap, cos keeping the overhead cost low, minimise workload, and still able to get consistent assignments.
Car analogy again...... don't expect to see a Kancil in the GT2 class.
depends on the type of photographer.. but if you're an average pro you'd expect to have these.
24-70 f/2.8, 16-35 f/2.8, 70-200 f/2.8 IS
Of course there are variations like 70-200 f/4 IS, 24-105 f/4, 17-40 f/4, all those being lower priced variants.
This is the basic build of lenses a travel photographer would carry, along with extenders etc.
Then food photographers will buy macro lenses such as 100mm or 180mm, and sports photojournalists will buy the expensive primes such as 400mm or 600mm.
Portrait photographers will buy 85mm f/1.8 or f/1.2, and the list goes on for different types of photographers.
Rich hobbyists will buy anything legendary or with a red ring, or gold ring. maybe Leica/Voigtlander/Zeiss lenses as well.
Rich hobbyists look for form and function, pros look for build quality and performance and how the lens will help their shooting