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    i had a shooting with my company for advertising purpose



    children are practising their performance

    my thought:
    dont use flash to make their attention
    use high shutter speed coz their motion quite fast

    BUT for the light condition

    i can only use larger aperture and higher ISO ( actually i want to smaller aperture but cannot)
    so the pictures become blue and noises


    so what is ur opinion to shoot?

    mine is can only get a better camera that hav a good ISO....

    thx

    and maybe hav to shoot another time... zzzz haha :P
    Last edited by KCYong; 5th October 2009 at 09:43 PM.
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    less is good. this is just a normal snap shoot type of photo.

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    Just use flash

    Snap at the right time when the movements are slower.
    Else try going up close, facial expressions sometimes can be interesting too, but that depends on what your company wants.

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    get an external flash unit and bounce it. u are indoors. lots of place to bounce the light.

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    use faster lens

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    PIC: kiddies looks like toddlers, I feel you're super tall...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lichtleiter View Post
    use faster lens
    Erm... You weren't listening, huh? He needs to shoot at f/8 or so to make sure all kids are in focus. Getting a large-aperture lens will be pointless for him.
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    just use flash, after some shots, the kids will see you as transparent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dennisc View Post
    PIC: kiddies looks like toddlers, I feel you're super tall...
    no la i'm standing on a bench :P
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    i concur with what were said here. use external flash and bounce it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    just use flash, after some shots, the kids will see you as transparent.
    got it



    wanna ask
    if i add the exposure few stops
    then use smaller aperture
    can?
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    Hi KCYong.
    If you were to use this for an advertisement, then it becomes perhaps even more important that an external flash is used to freeze the children's actions and expressions. As some of the members have mentioned, may I suggest capturing a fewer number of children within the frame, but with a focus on their smiling, happy faces. More impactful. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbangR View Post
    i concur with what were said here. use external flash and bounce it up.
    it is jus a small room ~ so can bounce easily
    but also bounce childrens' eyes easily
    ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCYong View Post
    got it



    wanna ask
    if i add the exposure few stops
    then use smaller aperture
    can?
    My humble view is: yes you can use a smaller aperture, say maybe f/6.3 or f/8.
    But you have not much other options to increase your exposure by, say, 2 stops. This is because without the use of external flash, the only way is, as you have mentioned, to increase ISO (maybe not so ideal in your case) or slow down your shutter speed (not ideal in this case).
    So only way is still to use an external flash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limwhow View Post
    Hi KCYong.
    If you were to use this for an advertisement, then it becomes perhaps even more important that an external flash is used to freeze the children's actions and expressions. As some of the members have mentioned, may I suggest capturing a fewer number of children within the frame, but with a focus on their smiling, happy faces. More impactful. What do you think?
    if it's jus my shooting i'll be sure to do that
    but they want to see all the children in the photos >< ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCYong View Post
    if it's jus my shooting i'll be sure to do that
    but they want to see all the children in the photos >< ha
    Lolxxx....
    OK lor. So your hands are tied behind your back.
    Like that they will have to understand the limitations of such a request.

    But I certainly feel that yes, you can definitely bounce your flash. And like what catchlights says, after a while the children will be oblivious to your presence, and their eyes will not bounce with your flash (lolxxx...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by limwhow View Post
    Hi KCYong.
    If you were to use this for an advertisement, then it becomes perhaps even more important that an external flash is used to freeze the children's actions and expressions. As some of the members have mentioned, may I suggest capturing a fewer number of children within the frame, but with a focus on their smiling, happy faces. More impactful. What do you think?
    ya flash better...
    i keep it in my bags haha

    but i'm think that
    their action will be more natural without flash ~~~~ agree?

    if it's jus my shooting i'll be sure to do that
    but they want to see all the children in the photos >< ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCYong View Post
    got it



    wanna ask
    if i add the exposure few stops
    then use smaller aperture
    can?
    do a ceiling bounce, since the flash light is coming down same as the existing light, the lighting effect will be very similar to what you have earlier.

    the room is so small, and you didn't see any lighting fixture in the photo, you can just let your flash be the main light source, so no WB issue, you can also freeze movement and have better DOF.
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    Why dont just advertise on service wanted folder? U will get quite a number of folks with camera. Some of them might produce decent pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCYong View Post
    it is jus a small room ~ so can bounce easily
    but also bounce childrens' eyes easily
    ???
    i meant, of course, ceiling bounce. flip the flash up. that way, the light looks more natural and you won't risk bouncing the flash on the children's eyes.

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