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    Quote Originally Posted by insanne View Post
    Well said, cos I learn how to keng, how to cao kuan, how to siam arrows and play tai chi there.

    Those are very vital survivor skills as well in the real world

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    Took sometimes to read through the 6-7 pages of this thread. Compared to most other local fora, the discussion abt NS here is more matured, though there are differing opinions. This reflects the majority type of CSers we have here.

    My view about keng kings:
    For anyone who kengs, his action will most of the time cause at least another one, be it his buddy, his platoon mate or his colleague, to suffer. I won't go to war with this type of pple. And if I have to, I won't risk my life for them.

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    You mean kengsters.

    Quote Originally Posted by LightEx View Post
    Took sometimes to read through the 6-7 pages of this thread. Compared to most other local fora, the discussion abt NS here is more matured, though there are differing opinions. This reflects the majority type of CSers we have here.

    My view about keng kings:
    For anyone who kengs, his action will most of the time cause at least another one, be it his buddy, his platoon mate or his colleague, to suffer. I won't go to war with this type of pple. And if I have to, I won't risk my life for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by germ_boi View Post
    When I'm bored, I write articles, hahaha... Anyone has writing jobs for me?
    good writers must be objective.

    Anyway, it's just a personal view of mine..but if i have a choice i will not want my son to serve NS. Yes, boy become men there but patriotism aside, it's really unfair to Singaporean boys.

    1. you lag TWO bloody years behind your Malaysia PR friend. Singapore government subsidies them to study, they come out and compete for jobs with you and THEY COMPLAIN WHEN YOUR SALARY IS $150 HIGHER THAN THEM. Totally disgusted.

    2. Your boss gives that dream project u want to do to someone b/c you got reservist for ONE BLOODY MONTH.

    3. two years is really a hell'uva time to be taken away. Our education system is already slow with a redundant A level system, an university curriculum that is way too long and inflexible and government still want us to have more kids...By the time we graduate, we are already 25-26....With HDB flats that sell for 500K....can you imagine the kind of stress ??

    4. Oh yes, i do have a fantastic $1.5K rebate off my taxable income due to having served NS. FANTASTIC....it work out to about $50/yr...MIGHT AS WELL DUN GIVE?

    5. Still it has taken them bloody long when PM came up with " oh , we think we need to make the difference between PR and citizen sharper " recently....Have you guys been sticking your head in the sand for the last 10 years ignoring the problem hoping it will go away?

    It's really sad. Singapore is not bad a place to live in. I feel safe, my taxes are low...but, i feel that i am better off being a malaysian who come to singapore to study and work instead. I earn 5K here, go back JB become 12K...oh, and that gov let me study for 5K/year as uni school fees ( way cheap, you cannot find this ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD) ...infact, IF i cannot find a job, they will even try to match me up with some job.oh yes, I DUN HAVE TO SERVE NS.

    which is why i am apply for Auzzie PR.

    I think i am not alone in feeling this frustration. This country treat foreigners better than their own sons in a bid to attract what they call talents.... Come on, i scored my 4As in A level, what are you trying to do to retain me? With a $50 yearly tax rebate + taking away 2 years of my time? I can't even defer my NS to purse my interest.....

    I dun buy into the having talent will create more job crap. Firstly, if the man is truly such a talent, you think that if you attract him to come here, he will not be attracted to somewhere else more favorable ?? ( EVERYwhere will seem favorable if his son dun have to do NS....lol)

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    the 2yrs NS is bad for BGR too..
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    good writers being objective.. not necessarily. i prefer writers with a solid point of view as opposed to the wishy washy ones that seem to enjoy sitting on fence for everything.

    what is important is that a clear thought process has to be seen... here....... well, can write for new paper.. or some other tabloid.. perhaps.

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    There's many more things better to do than serve ns.

    Loss of freedom, time, money, 2 years of life, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightEx View Post
    Took sometimes to read through the 6-7 pages of this thread. Compared to most other local fora, the discussion abt NS here is more matured, though there are differing opinions. This reflects the majority type of CSers we have here.

    My view about keng kings:
    For anyone who kengs, his action will most of the time cause at least another one, be it his buddy, his platoon mate or his colleague, to suffer. I won't go to war with this type of pple. And if I have to, I won't risk my life for them.
    lol don't worry even those who keng won't be in the same unit as you...cause once downgraded, most likely will post out to non-front line units.

    once received L9 status, they won't be deployed out field anymore.
    Last edited by Simon_84; 26th September 2009 at 01:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon_84 View Post
    lol don't worry even those who keng won't be in the same unit as you...cause once downgraded, most likely will post out to non-front line units.

    once received L9 status, they won't be deployed out field anymore.

    So you implying all those downgraded keng lah

    not true about the L9 deployment, the units, or at least the ones I know, will "quietly" send the L9s out field. If they don't complain, then the units will act blur ..... not enough manpower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightEx View Post
    Took sometimes to read through the 6-7 pages of this thread. Compared to most other local fora, the discussion abt NS here is more matured, though there are differing opinions. This reflects the majority type of CSers we have here.

    My view about keng kings:
    For anyone who kengs, his action will most of the time cause at least another one, be it his buddy, his platoon mate or his colleague, to suffer. I won't go to war with this type of pple. And if I have to, I won't risk my life for them.
    What makes you think that those who don't keng will?

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    Quote Originally Posted by insanne View Post
    What makes you think that those who don't keng will?

    Those are classified under 'boh chaps' and 'blur sotongs'.

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    Will this come to an end already? hahahaha. 7 pages long! Anyway I think we all have our own opinions about the armed forces.

    Whether we like it or not, it is here to stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by germ_boi View Post
    Will this come to an end already? hahahaha. 7 pages long! Anyway I think we all have our own opinions about the armed forces.

    Whether we like it or not, it is here to stay.

    A lot of things are here to stay whether we like it or not.

    You want this thread to end?? You close it lor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosycatus View Post
    good writers must be objective.

    Anyway, it's just a personal view of mine..but if i have a choice i will not want my son to serve NS. Yes, boy become men there but patriotism aside, it's really unfair to Singaporean boys.

    1. you lag TWO bloody years behind your Malaysia PR friend. Singapore government subsidies them to study, they come out and compete for jobs with you and THEY COMPLAIN WHEN YOUR SALARY IS $150 HIGHER THAN THEM. Totally disgusted.

    2. Your boss gives that dream project u want to do to someone b/c you got reservist for ONE BLOODY MONTH.

    3. two years is really a hell'uva time to be taken away. Our education system is already slow with a redundant A level system, an university curriculum that is way too long and inflexible and government still want us to have more kids...By the time we graduate, we are already 25-26....With HDB flats that sell for 500K....can you imagine the kind of stress ??

    4. Oh yes, i do have a fantastic $1.5K rebate off my taxable income due to having served NS. FANTASTIC....it work out to about $50/yr...MIGHT AS WELL DUN GIVE?

    5. Still it has taken them bloody long when PM came up with " oh , we think we need to make the difference between PR and citizen sharper " recently....Have you guys been sticking your head in the sand for the last 10 years ignoring the problem hoping it will go away?

    It's really sad. Singapore is not bad a place to live in. I feel safe, my taxes are low...but, i feel that i am better off being a malaysian who come to singapore to study and work instead. I earn 5K here, go back JB become 12K...oh, and that gov let me study for 5K/year as uni school fees ( way cheap, you cannot find this ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD) ...infact, IF i cannot find a job, they will even try to match me up with some job.oh yes, I DUN HAVE TO SERVE NS.

    which is why i am apply for Auzzie PR.

    I think i am not alone in feeling this frustration. This country treat foreigners better than their own sons in a bid to attract what they call talents.... Come on, i scored my 4As in A level, what are you trying to do to retain me? With a $50 yearly tax rebate + taking away 2 years of my time? I can't even defer my NS to purse my interest.....

    I dun buy into the having talent will create more job crap. Firstly, if the man is truly such a talent, you think that if you attract him to come here, he will not be attracted to somewhere else more favorable ?? ( EVERYwhere will seem favorable if his son dun have to do NS....lol)

    You do have a choice.

    And I believe you have already exercised your right to choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .Hack View Post
    Haha, you also know of Jenny ah?
    "She" treat my friend drink leh.
    Last i heard "She" no longer there.
    still there. HAHA just got back from saiyok 1 month ago from my sumex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by insanne View Post
    So you implying all those downgraded keng lah

    not true about the L9 deployment, the units, or at least the ones I know, will "quietly" send the L9s out field. If they don't complain, then the units will act blur ..... not enough manpower.
    thankfully navy units don't do that...the L9 ppl i know from navy either has no NS posting letter or are posted to changi as clerks.

    i also downgrade but there are also ppl who say i keng, most importantly is i still got my MRI report from AH.
    once i had enough of ict, then is time to make a trip down to glenn eagles with my MRI report from AH.

    i don't have to take ippt but i still got to attend ict while my C1 friends have to take ippt but no NS posting...that's really something i don't understand
    Last edited by Simon_84; 27th September 2009 at 09:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon_84 View Post
    i don't have to take ippt but i still got to attend ict while my C1 friends have to take ippt but no NS posting...that's really something i don't understand
    u might still be classified under MR, while your friends do not.

    IPPT is an annual affair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon_84 View Post
    how can i be in MR when i'm only into 2nd year of my ict ?
    MR isn't when you complete all ict cycles (7 high key/3 low key) or certified pes E before ord from ns?
    paiseh typo..i meant maybe ur frens are MR so no NS posting yet?

    my batch people who have ORDed recently were all posted to MR first, then to a NS unit..not necessarily PES E
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    Quote Originally Posted by +evenstar View Post
    paiseh typo..i meant maybe ur frens are MR so no NS posting yet?

    my batch people who have ORDed recently were all posted to MR first, then to a NS unit..not necessarily PES E
    pes E ppl who rod after NS, don't they belong to MR ?

    my C1 friends with no NS posting after ord are classified under "pending" status and their credits in the 11b frozen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon_84 View Post
    pes E ppl who rod after NS, don't they belong to MR ?

    my C1 friends with no NS posting after ord are classified under "pending" status and their credits in the 11b frozen.
    i think PES E NSmen are usually recalled to be clerks for their ICT..
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