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    Quote Originally Posted by contaxable View Post
    no lah, sometimes, i just do it to make it a great shoot for everyone. i help set up and pack the studio too. So, its ok, at least, it was part of my learning process.

    so, i did not hold any grudge. Just sway only nia.... but hey, at least the model cheer me up... that was priceless.
    scandal noted...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt View Post
    participants dun tell them off, then too bad bah...

    its like the shoot is for say 6 to 1, organiser is there to organise, not shoot.

    so if organiser shoot, then is 7 to 1...

    i think organiser should be the one doing the reflector job.

    organiser is paid to make the participant enjoy the shoot, not he self enjoy together.
    well said. Last sentence pretty much sums up everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by contaxable View Post
    no lah, sometimes, i just do it to make it a great shoot for everyone. i help set up and pack the studio too. So, its ok, at least, it was part of my learning process.

    so, i did not hold any grudge. Just sway only nia.... but hey, at least the model cheer me up... that was priceless.
    wah.. how come u have only ? priceless.. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by contaxable View Post
    There was once i was at a studio shoot. (Not organised by CS).

    I held the electric fan for everyone as i felt frustrated when i saw the fan blowing at the wrong angle. The model love the shots by other photographers. When it came my turn, no one bothered. I asked one to help me, but he any how blow. I also no mood to shoot. In the end, the model expected me to show her nice pictures, i told her i dont have any to show. She asked why, i told her i was the only one who was willing to hold the fan.
    i have the same experience. when i hold the light box or fan, i always make sure the angles are correct etc. but when it comes to the others' turn to hold, they just go through the motion and anyhow whack. I had to tell them what to do etc.

    sadly, some of these people are my regular kakis. dunno what to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exposure View Post
    wah.. how come u have only ? priceless.. ?
    It's a paid shoot or unpaid shoot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsigg View Post
    i have the same experience. when i hold the light box or fan, i always make sure the angles are correct etc. but when it comes to the others' turn to hold, they just go through the motion and anyhow whack. I had to tell them what to do etc.

    sadly, some of these people are my regular kakis. dunno what to say.
    so other tangshooters not model shooters rite...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt View Post
    so other tangshooters not model shooters rite...
    some are model shooters, some are moll-er shooters...all got diverse interest in photography...haha...

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsigg View Post
    wah, liddat oso can ah? which organiser ah? pm me if not convenient to expose here. thanks!
    I am also interested to know leh, can PM me too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt View Post
    nah, these are cheap, from a participant point of view... what 20 bucks kinda stuff... but trade off with shooting with so many ppl... often a waste of time.

    some models does feedback says some guys here actually shoot non-stop, trying to make money worth... even when they're taking a sip also take their pics...

    probably guys here need to understand, rest is rest, shoot is shoot... picture an image u want before the shoot instead of go there see what shoot wat...

    Well this is the digital world..shoot until finger tired not happy with shots just delete.Back to
    the point I feel that it's the organizer's responsibility to provide all the 'amenitities' as part
    of the paid service by customers.It's like you visit a restaurant paid for the food and the chef joined in the dinning.If organizers so 'gian' in shooting they actually could do a one on one later on which should be better for him/her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsigg View Post
    i have the same experience. when i hold the light box or fan, i always make sure the angles are correct etc. but when it comes to the others' turn to hold, they just go through the motion and anyhow whack. I had to tell them what to do etc.

    sadly, some of these people are my regular kakis. dunno what to say.

    In any model shoot it's 'every man for himself' and that's a reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeisser View Post
    In any model shoot it's 'every man for himself' and that's a reality.
    I disagree, the organiser must regulate. It will only discourage shooters from coming back again.

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    nowadays where organisers have up to 3 models shooting at the same time at different locations .... who do you expect the organiser to hold the reflector for .... ?

    i guess it should be a bonus of there was one reflector per model ....
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    buy 3 reflectors, hire 2 more assistants = solved.
    either that or dont even offer reflector lor, you dont offer at least pple wont complain abt nobody holding the reflector coz theres no reflector to start with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheryl852 View Post
    buy 3 reflectors, hire 2 more assistants = solved.
    either that or dont even offer reflector lor, you dont offer at least pple wont complain abt nobody holding the reflector coz theres no reflector to start with.
    One organizers trains his German shepherd to hold the reflector with its mouth.

    The dog even barks if the photographer shoots from too low an angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    One organizers trains his German shepherd to hold the reflector with its mouth.

    The dog even barks if the photographer shoots from too low an angle.
    alternatively..

    wear on your head


    or like you said.. train your pet to do the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheryl852 View Post
    alternatively..

    wear on your head
    hi cheryl
    i love your sense of humor... but hor, many uncles need to look glam also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by contaxable View Post
    hi cheryl
    i love your sense of humor... but hor, many uncles need to look glam also.
    but she not wrong wor... its a beauty dish...
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsigg View Post
    i have the same experience. when i hold the light box or fan, i always make sure the angles are correct etc. but when it comes to the others' turn to hold, they just go through the motion and anyhow whack. I had to tell them what to do etc.

    sadly, some of these people are my regular kakis. dunno what to say.
    No lah, no body's fault. Everyone pay for shoot. If everyone brings a tool, then everybody can enjoy. Teamwork is important.

    I always believe in sharing little things. No right or wrong. just enjoy and everyone is happy.

    Organizer also not easy. Imagine he has to bring reflectors, reflectors holder, battery pack, strobes, MUA, clothing, accessories, etc.. It's actually a lot of logistics and a one man organizer definitely cannot carry them all. Esp for the generator or battery packs, these are really dam heavy. Walk up a steep hill with everything on his shoulder, he may fall off the cliff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by contaxable View Post
    Organizer also not easy. Imagine he has to bring reflectors, reflectors holder, battery pack, strobes, MUA, clothing, accessories, etc.. It's actually a lot of logistics and a one man organizer definitely cannot carry them all. Esp for the generator or battery packs, these are really dam heavy. Walk up a steep hill with everything on his shoulder, he may fall off the cliff.
    You forgot .... he got to bring the model as well ....

    Bring all these thing ... model fly aeroplane .... everything also no use ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Long Thai Bean View Post
    You forgot .... he got to bring the model as well ....

    Bring all these thing ... model fly aeroplane .... everything also no use ....
    yah hor, he carries left hand MUA, right hand model. piggy back generator... then on his neck a trolly with a box of lighting gears

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