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    Hi, newbie here...i have some questions regarding video recording function in those latest DLSR like Canon 5D2, 500D, Nikon D90, D5000.......

    1. Most of the reviews saying that the sound quality is bad....just mono tone...really?

    2. Viewfinder will black out when taking video....and there is some delay in LiveView function..so very hard to take good videos.....even worse as compared to PnS?

    3. No autofocus....so most of the time video will out of focus....how to overcome this?

    4. Video abit lag especially shooting fast moving objects.....becoz its just 30fps....

    5. Last but most important one.....video function shorten DSLR sensor's life...since it continuous expose to dust when taking video....dust will go into sensor more easily....true?


    So, really not advisable to buy DSLR with video functions? Canon 450D better than 500D....Nikon D3000(coming soon) better than D5000? in terms of value for money....


    Please advise....thanks...

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    D3000 is not coming soon, it's on sale already. HN has some sets.

    Personally, it's a matter of opinion. I would never use a DSLR for taking videos. The ergonomics are wrong, and the sensor itself is not designed for video, so you get the "wobbly legs" effect if you pan, etc.

    I get a DSLR for taking pictures.
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    video recording feature to me is just a bonus point, u shld look at other more important aspects when buying a camera, especially a dslr, coz u'll need to throw in quite a lot of money to get it.

    anyway, just to share with you some of my opinions:

    1. not too sure abt other cameras, d90 can onli record mono sound with the build n microphone, the sound quality isn't really that bad, it's acceptable to me, however newer models like d300s will have extra jack for you to plug in your own microphone.

    2. yes viewfinder will black out during video recording, that's becoz you'll need to activate liveview to record video, just like wat you do with the compact, so why is it hard to take good video? there's no delay when you record video, or minimal delay that is almost the pns camera,which will not affect video recording. i think the delay in liveview is onli applicable when you use liveview to take photo, becoz the camera need to flip down the second mirror before you can take picture, so there'll be abt 1 sec shutter delay time.

    3. no autofocus.. then use manual focus lor... you can always check whether your subject is in focus thru the LCD screen ma... then adjust focus accordingly.

    4. errr... frame rate is not equals to shutter speed, but not too sure abt the theory behind. i used to film sports with 24/25fps, with video cam of coz, but no issues.

    5. totally wrong.. taking video or taking photo, your lens will be attached to your camera body, why will dust get in?

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    Just very curious. Some photo are discarded when shooting in low light condition as they are blur. This will surely not happen to DSLR video as there is no such thing as blur in video right? So in low light condition, if you want to preserve a piece of memory, better to shoot in video right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maisatomai View Post
    Just very curious. Some photo are discarded when shooting in low light condition as they are blur. This will surely not happen to DSLR video as there is no such thing as blur in video right? So in low light condition, if you want to preserve a piece of memory, better to shoot in video right?
    Of course it can still happen. Motion blur is still motion blur, and low light images get discarded because of focus issues. In video mode, most DSLR cameras can only focus veeeeeeeeery slowly (if at all), so you'll have more out-of-focus video. Also, the resolution is a far cry from the full image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maisatomai View Post
    Just very curious. Some photo are discarded when shooting in low light condition as they are blur. This will surely not happen to DSLR video as there is no such thing as blur in video right? So in low light condition, if you want to preserve a piece of memory, better to shoot in video right?
    not exactly, you can still get blurs in video, just that the min shutter speed would be at the repective frame rates you're shooting at.. you'll just get a dim/dark frame if there isn't enough light for video..

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    i have no problem taking videos with 500D
    to focus, i press the * button
    but if you press * in the middle of recording
    the video will also record in the mechanical focusing sound

    here's a sample
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54ycUsmTco

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    Quote Originally Posted by jekyll69 View Post
    i have no problem taking videos with 500D
    to focus, i press the * button
    but if you press * in the middle of recording
    the video will also record in the mechanical focusing sound

    here's a sample
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54ycUsmTco
    Just curious, can you manual focus with 500D while recording video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leon View Post
    Just curious, can you manual focus with 500D while recording video?

    Why not? Just select MF on lens body and adjust the focussing ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by jekyll69 View Post
    i have no problem taking videos with 500D
    to focus, i press the * button
    but if you press * in the middle of recording
    the video will also record in the mechanical focusing sound

    here's a sample
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54ycUsmTco
    yes, i was just going to say the same thing myself - got my 500D yesterday.. n though i dont really intend to use it for video, it was kinda disappointing.. the autofocus thing works alrighgt, but the noise (maybe its the kit lens thats so noisy?) is quite loud, and is completely picked up by the mic.. quality is good on the 500D.. especially at 720p

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    Default Re: Video recording using DSLR.....

    hello...if your intention is to take video why not get a proper video cam instead?
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    Default Re: Video recording using DSLR.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Galdor View Post
    hello...if your intention is to take video why not get a proper video cam instead?
    I totally agree with you....of course i am not buying DLSR for video recording...but having this extra function might be a bonus for a camera...so that you can take video when you need it at some special moment....

    for me...video function will be a plus for the DSLR, but not the main function for sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galdor View Post
    hello...if your intention is to take video why not get a proper video cam instead?
    And to get shallow DoF, 35mm lens adapter which itself cost more than a DSLR with video capabilities?

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    Default Re: Video recording using DSLR.....

    Anymore Canon 500D or Nikon D5000 user mind to share their experience with video recording?

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    Have you consider m43 system like the Panasonic GH1 & GF1 too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallacetham View Post
    Anymore Canon 500D or Nikon D5000 user mind to share their experience with video recording?
    I am happy with Canon 500D. I like sound and smooth video. I have no problem with canon 500D. I can borrow lenses from my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heshanj View Post
    yes, i was just going to say the same thing myself - got my 500D yesterday.. n though i dont really intend to use it for video, it was kinda disappointing.. the autofocus thing works alrighgt, but the noise (maybe its the kit lens thats so noisy?) is quite loud, and is completely picked up by the mic.. quality is good on the 500D.. especially at 720p

    i dun intend to use it for videography
    but its a bonus
    especially if there are funny moments
    and not enough time to whip out your vid-cam

    i think the 500D gives good sound and clarity
    no complaints so far
    yes, its probably the noisy kit lens
    shouldn't have a problem with a USM lens

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    Very interesting discussion - but doesn't hit the point. I was last month in Calgary at the istockalypse (www.istockalypse.com) and joint the video session.
    12 video graphers from around the world (ok, only me from Asia) - but I think we had 7 of us shooting with a Canon 5D Mk2. We had 1 RED camera (wow, a monster), 1 professional Sony, one Panasonic, and one Canon - all in the 10k+ SGD category, so no toys.

    The stuff that was shot - with professional lighting - we had kits for over 50k for 3 days of true shooting, was simply amazing. Yes, without follow focus, you can't do nice pulls of the focus. But hey - there is enough stuff - that you can do with a dolly, with a jib, with a steady cam, and then wild stuff free held. Nothing to be shy off.
    Pity that the videos are not yet ready for viewing and sale - but they rock.

    In the meantime - still my favorite: http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/...r-ado-reverie/
    Please try to do that with a video cam - no easy. Or at least very very expensive. And yes the RED is better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galdor View Post
    hello...if your intention is to take video why not get a proper video cam instead?
    Because it can do great video, more cinema style

    Quote Originally Posted by wallacetham View Post
    I totally agree with you....of course i am not buying DLSR for video recording...but having this extra function might be a bonus for a camera...so that you can take video when you need it at some special moment....

    for me...video function will be a plus for the DSLR, but not the main function for sure...
    It's good enough now, that you have full manual controls on the 5D - it's not just a plus.

    Quote Originally Posted by J-Chan View Post
    not exactly, you can still get blurs in video, just that the min shutter speed would be at the respective frame rates you're shooting at.. you'll just get a dim/dark frame if there isn't enough light for video..
    fps and shutter speed is 2 different things. And yes you are right, when it is dark, you either up the ISO and/or lower the shutter speed. Once you are at 1/30 fast moving becomes of course blurred. On the other hand you film with a tripod, so hopefully only the moving object is a bit blurred

    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    D3000 is not coming soon, it's on sale already. HN has some sets.

    Personally, it's a matter of opinion. I would never use a DSLR for taking videos. The ergonomics are wrong, and the sensor itself is not designed for video, so you get the "wobbly legs" effect if you pan, etc.

    I get a DSLR for taking pictures.

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    Check out this one

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIsPisBi7_k

    short movie done using the Pentax K7

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    Quote Originally Posted by btrenkel View Post
    Very interesting discussion - but doesn't hit the point. I was last month in Calgary at the istockalypse (www.istockalypse.com) and joint the video session.
    12 video graphers from around the world (ok, only me from Asia) - but I think we had 7 of us shooting with a Canon 5D Mk2. We had 1 RED camera (wow, a monster), 1 professional Sony, one Panasonic, and one Canon - all in the 10k+ SGD category, so no toys.

    The stuff that was shot - with professional lighting - we had kits for over 50k for 3 days of true shooting, was simply amazing. Yes, without follow focus, you can't do nice pulls of the focus. But hey - there is enough stuff - that you can do with a dolly, with a jib, with a steady cam, and then wild stuff free held. Nothing to be shy off.
    Pity that the videos are not yet ready for viewing and sale - but they rock.

    In the meantime - still my favorite: http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/...r-ado-reverie/
    Please try to do that with a video cam - no easy. Or at least very very expensive. And yes the RED is better

    D

    Because it can do great video, more cinema style

    It's good enough now, that you have full manual controls on the 5D - it's not just a plus.

    fps and shutter speed is 2 different things. And yes you are right, when it is dark, you either up the ISO and/or lower the shutter speed. Once you are at 1/30 fast moving becomes of course blurred. On the other hand you film with a tripod, so hopefully only the moving object is a bit blurred


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