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    Default Re: LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB: You'll Never Walk Alone! (40) RAF999's time is up?

    spent alot of needless $$ on rubbish players.
    You'll Never Walk Alone! - i have the best job in the world!

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    绝望!

    失望!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shunzi View Post
    绝望!

    失望!


    while i am not as optimistic as bro Rodz
    don't need to be so dissapointed lah, the season still long


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    Quote Originally Posted by domdomino View Post
    haha i only see him play in the start of the first 3 games of the season, than he zhao dont know go where..

    he was in singapore recently.
    sleague recently got many many vacancies, rite? maybe got lobang.. 8)

    keep up the gd work cc..
    but we'll need more fr u if results are to improve..

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    While on the subject of luck and fairness, I have total sympathy for Lucas Leiva in terms of the press he gets. The whole team plays poorly in Italy, yet he gets singled out. While I felt he really struggled in the first half of last season, I see no such problems this time around. But still the stigma remains attached.

    There are probably reasons for this. If he was English, he'd be lauded for his workrate, feverish closing down and generally very good (if unspectacular) use of the ball.

    Because he's Brazilian, he has to fit a stereotype. That doesn't sit easily with people with no imagination. I've seen some idiotic comments in the press like he's “the most un-South American player I've ever seen”; as if, as a Brazilian, you have no worth unless you're a stepover king.

    At Stamford Bridge, Liverpool actually won the battle of the midfield, and Lucas played a massive part in that. The Reds lost largely because Chelsea's strikers had a better day in front of goal, and not because of the balance of play (dictated by Lucas and Mascherano) or chances created.

    As a psychology student helpfully pointed out to me during a discussion on my new website: “The ‘truth effect' comes when a message is repeated enough, then the receiver of the message will accept it as fact.”

    Lucas made many positive contributions to the Hull thrashing, with two forceful, direct forward passes leading to goals two and five, as well as getting to the byline for the sixth. But along with not being stereotypically Brazilian, he is criticised for not being Xabi Alonso. Which, to me, seems grossly unfair.

    Liverpool had their best-ever scoring start to the season, so how can Lucas, a league ever-present, be to blame for a “lack of creativity” that clearly isn't there?

    I thought Liverpool were creative against Chelsea, too, without ever tearing through them, but then this is a world-renowned defensive set-up, at home, and by the end, forced to defend in great numbers. Liverpool were no worse than in the fixture a year ago, but crucially, Chelsea were much improved, and the Reds didn't have that crucial slice of luck.

    I therefore believe that the ‘truth effect' to be very much in evidence with Lucas, as it so clearly is with zonal marking.

    Watch Liverpool defend a set-piece, and count the times ‘zonal marking' is discussed in negative terms. Watch a team defend man-marking, and you'll only get “great run/great cross/great header” if the ball goes in.

    I've been saying this very thing for years, but almost collapsed when Gordon Strachan pointed this out after the Sunderland vs Wolves game. Then again, he's managed at the top level using both man-marking and zonal, and he said that both work equally well, and that it just depends on what your players are comfortable with. How dare he talk such sense?

    Against Chelsea, I noticed that after every excellent Mascherano challenge or even just harrying, there was a positive mention from the commentators, but Lucas, who made loads of excellent contributions was only mentioned after mistakes. Go and watch the game again, and you'll see this to be true.

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    When LFC lose a game,every "qualified" managers/coaches in the world will criticise certain players. Blaming the Rafa for something gone wrong. Its a team game. The whole team just didnt show up. What did Lucas do wrong against chelski? What has Masch did right for that game? No doubt Lucas did some mistakes during the game but none more critical than Masch's mistake that lead to the 1st goal. If certain supporters has got -ve mindset about the manager or certain players...then its their opinion...i have no concern about that...they are no more qualified than those ah peks watching at coffeeshops...

    I didnt watch the 2nd half of the match as i was too tired but i certainly saw masch mistake that lead to chelski's 1st goal...any qualified coach here criticised Masch? I didnt even yet get a chance to see their 2nd goal yet...maybe later i'll get to that...for the meantime...i certainly feel for any team...the supporters should get behind the team..not at the team...

    i believe the players are qualified...same goes to the manager...if they are not good enough for LFC,they wont be good enough for their national teams...mind you...Brazil...Holland...they are not small footballing nations...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shunzi View Post
    绝望!

    失望!
    well,if there is a need for Chinese characters,please also get the translation...

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    I blame myself when LFC lose...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunzi View Post
    绝望!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roDz View Post
    well,if there is a need for Chinese characters,please also get the translation...
    1. No Hope (or Hopeless)

    2. Lose Hope (or Disappointed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpy View Post
    PLO tactic - 4-5-1
    Every manager has got his fave tactics...chelski manager always use the diamond formation...doesnt always work also right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesecake View Post
    i have been supporting LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB ever since i was 13.

    and i'm 18 this year!!!

    and during those 5yrs, i have seen alot... and i think i know something about footy.

    LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB under raf999 has reached its peak and we can no longer improve under his guidance.

    seriously, his biggest flaw is his failure to hold onto Xabi and since he failed to hold onto him, he has failed to replace him with the right center midfielder.

    his insistence to prove to us skeptics that louya leiva is infact the new maradona despite his very obvious short-comings and lack of pace, aggression, skills etc. is simply too much for me to take.

    vomit blood!!!!

    louya leiva is another dirty kite player. all hardwork and non creativity nor the right skills and first touch.

    even dirty kite can kiosai some times but louya leiva.... he only make sure he cast the disappearing spell when the going gets tough.

    why do i feel that raf999 is actually graeme souness in disguise?

    7th placing in the EPL again at the end of the season?

    bitterly disappointed with LFC under raf999 is an understatement.
    if LFC cant move on becoz of losing alonso...then i'd say should start supporting madrid as alonso is now playing there...LFC is bigger than a player who's heart is not with the club...

    Lucas is definitely not a creative player...he is a player in his own right...do u think dunga is a creative player like zico? We just cannot compare a player with another...each player has his own role to play...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesecake View Post
    looking at our midfield, or rather, the lack of it, he should simply pack his defence n play out a draw if possible.

    when we play quality opposition, the likes of louya leiva will simply disappear.
    tell me if SG is outstanding in every games he played? SG also disappeared during the chelski game...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesecake View Post
    if he does, then good.

    he gets to stay for another term.

    i can see mascherano leaving LFC at the end of the season.
    If he leaves,its his choice...we'll move on also...same goes to manure when cristina left...the club is bigger than any players

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockyboy View Post
    I think this season, if we are lucky, would be at 4th position, and Rafa999 should sack himself, can coach ManU
    yeah,then employ anyone here to replace him...like some peeps who always criticise him? this is the real football,not expert11...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelccm View Post
    I blame myself when LFC lose...
    there are many other clubs that wont make u not blame yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roDz View Post
    there are many other clubs that wont make u not blame yourself?
    I praise myself if other clubs lose
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelccm View Post
    1. No Hope (or Hopeless)

    2. Lose Hope (or Disappointed)

    if u say no hope,then there wont be hope...then i suggest no need watch LFC games liao lah... manC got $$$...sure got hope...manure also doing well with plenty of luck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelccm View Post
    I praise myself if other clubs lose
    if u refer to Rafa...i've not read any article regarding him praising himself if other clubs lose...maybe he'll praise his players having good mentality...which is what a good manager shld do...boosting the team's morale...

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    Quote Originally Posted by roDz View Post
    if u refer to Rafa...i've not read any article regarding him praising himself if other clubs lose...maybe he'll praise his players having good mentality...which is what a good manager shld do...boosting the team's morale...
    Not only refering to Rafa. Everyone is blaming somebody else, so I blame myself lor, no need to argue
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelccm View Post
    Not only refering to Rafa. Everyone is blaming somebody else, so I blame myself lor, no need to argue
    evryone has got their own opinion...not arguing...not blaming...we should get behind the team...when the team is losing,thats when they need the fans support the most...getting at the team can be demoralising...

    remember when we were 0-3 at halftime...the fans still sing out loud...

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    Quote Originally Posted by roDz View Post
    evryone has got their own opinion...not arguing...not blaming...we should get behind the team...when the team is losing,thats when they need the fans support the most...getting at the team can be demoralising...

    remember when we were 0-3 at halftime...the fans still sing out loud...
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    Quote Originally Posted by roDz View Post
    if u say no hope,then there wont be hope...then i suggest no need watch LFC games liao lah... manC got $$$...sure got hope...manure also doing well with plenty of luck...
    manure lost to burnley.. draw with sunderland... no hope liao!! sack fergie!!

    chelski lost to Wigan.. no hope liao!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelccm View Post
    Not only refering to Rafa. Everyone is blaming somebody else, so I blame myself lor, no need to argue

    every time you watch the match, we will buang




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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpy View Post
    every time you watch the match, we will buang




    please sleep early in future
    next season we sure win cos no more watching on tv everyone sleep early loh
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