Playing Non-progressive DVD on DVD Player in Progressive Mode

lemontree · 27th August 2009

Hi guys, does anyone of you know or have experience with playing a non-progressive DVD disc on a DVD player that is in progressive mode?

I had done a video shot on HDV interlaced 50i mode, edited, encoded the video in interlaced mode and then rendered again in non-progressive mode and burned on the DVD.

What happened was, halfway through watching the video, it began to hang and then play again before hanging again and this went on and on with no audio heard. My DVD player is a Pioneer and it was connected to my LCD TV with a HDMI cable.

If I were to render my project in progressive mode, will it help?

This is still my first time encountering this problem. I'll appreciate all the help and advices I can get here from you guys. Thanks in advance.

jaegersing · 27th August 2009

Rendering as progressive should not make a difference. I would try just burning another disc in case the first one has a defect. And I would burn at maximum 8X which might help reduce playback problems.

lemontree · 28th August 2009

Thanks for your advices bro. but burning at 8x? will that create errors in the burning? I thought burning at the lowest possible speed is better? Or if it hits an error, it will automatically stop burning is it and that disc won't even be able to play?

I had called up Pioneer yesterday and they suggested to me to change to normal RCA cable instead of HDMI or alternatively, I can lower the playback quality to 1080i instead of 1080p. How does that help? I can't try out myself though cuz my Pioneer DVD player doesn't hv a HDMI so I can't compare. Mine's feeding through RCA and the disc plays fine. Really strange around here.

My understanding of DVD burning is not much so really need help here. Thanks man.

jaegersing · 28th August 2009

Hi. I said maximum 8X, but if you can burn at slower speeds then even better. The issue is not so much hard burning errors that will generate error messages during burning, it is that if the burning speed is too high, the 1s and 0s may not be so clearly defined, and some players may have problems playing back the disc.

If all your other DVDs are playing OK, it is a mystery to me how changing the cable could make a difference for this one disc. But I suppose life is better with an element of mystery so I shouldn't complain.

lemontree · 28th August 2009

Originally Posted by jaegersing

Hi. I said maximum 8X, but if you can burn at slower speeds then even better. The issue is not so much hard burning errors that will generate error messages during burning, it is that if the burning speed is too high, the 1s and 0s may not be so clearly defined, and some players may have problems playing back the disc.

If all your other DVDs are playing OK, it is a mystery to me how changing the cable could make a difference for this one disc. But I suppose life is better with an element of mystery so I shouldn't complain.

I see. That's the strangest thing! On my end, all other players including three of my own (a Pioneer, a Philips and a Samsung) could play the DVD. However, when I tried playing on a Pioneer (the one with HDMI connection to my LCD TV), it couldn't be played.

Just wondering, if my video was shot on 1080i, can it be played on a DVD player in either 1080p or 720p mode? Have you ever tried, Jaegersing?

jaegersing · 28th August 2009

The video was shot in 1080i, but presumably you are downconverting to PAL or NTSC resolution for the DVD? (Not many DVD players will touch a DVD that contains HD files.) Once you make an SD DVD, the player will not know that your original footage was 1080 or anything else. However if there is some anomaly with the disc, certain players could hiccup more than others.

My DVD player (a Panasonic) is set to upconvert to 1080, but I haven't seen any problems like this before with it. One problem I did see was a disc that played fine on mine player, froze at the same point on a friends player. When I examined it further, there was a file corruption in my video editing project. When I trimmed this away and made a new DVD, everything was fine.

Don't think I have seen anything related to HDMI yet though. Have you tried re-burning the disc?

wheels · 29th August 2009

Perhaps it could just be your conversion bitrate. You DVD player may not be able to handle the current bitrate you burn the DVD in. Lower it and try again.

samvision · 5th September 2009

have u tried on another dvd player or pc ?

27th August 2009	#1
lemontree Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woodlands, Singapore Posts: 667	Playing Non-progressive DVD on DVD Player in Progressive Mode Hi guys, does anyone of you know or have experience with playing a non-progressive DVD disc on a DVD player that is in progressive mode? I had done a video shot on HDV interlaced 50i mode, edited, encoded the video in interlaced mode and then rendered again in non-progressive mode and burned on the DVD. What happened was, halfway through watching the video, it began to hang and then play again before hanging again and this went on and on with no audio heard. My DVD player is a Pioneer and it was connected to my LCD TV with a HDMI cable. If I were to render my project in progressive mode, will it help? This is still my first time encountering this problem. I'll appreciate all the help and advices I can get here from you guys. Thanks in advance.

27th August 2009	#2
jaegersing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,135	Re: Playing Non-progressive DVD on DVD Player in Progressive Mode Rendering as progressive should not make a difference. I would try just burning another disc in case the first one has a defect. And I would burn at maximum 8X which might help reduce playback problems.

28th August 2009	#3
lemontree Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woodlands, Singapore Posts: 667	Re: Playing Non-progressive DVD on DVD Player in Progressive Mode Thanks for your advices bro. but burning at 8x? will that create errors in the burning? I thought burning at the lowest possible speed is better? Or if it hits an error, it will automatically stop burning is it and that disc won't even be able to play? I had called up Pioneer yesterday and they suggested to me to change to normal RCA cable instead of HDMI or alternatively, I can lower the playback quality to 1080i instead of 1080p. How does that help? I can't try out myself though cuz my Pioneer DVD player doesn't hv a HDMI so I can't compare. Mine's feeding through RCA and the disc plays fine. Really strange around here. My understanding of DVD burning is not much so really need help here. Thanks man. Last edited by lemontree; 28th August 2009 at 10:11 AM.

28th August 2009	#4
jaegersing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,135	Re: Playing Non-progressive DVD on DVD Player in Progressive Mode Hi. I said maximum 8X, but if you can burn at slower speeds then even better. The issue is not so much hard burning errors that will generate error messages during burning, it is that if the burning speed is too high, the 1s and 0s may not be so clearly defined, and some players may have problems playing back the disc. If all your other DVDs are playing OK, it is a mystery to me how changing the cable could make a difference for this one disc. But I suppose life is better with an element of mystery so I shouldn't complain.

28th August 2009	#6
jaegersing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,135	Re: Playing Non-progressive DVD on DVD Player in Progressive Mode The video was shot in 1080i, but presumably you are downconverting to PAL or NTSC resolution for the DVD? (Not many DVD players will touch a DVD that contains HD files.) Once you make an SD DVD, the player will not know that your original footage was 1080 or anything else. However if there is some anomaly with the disc, certain players could hiccup more than others. My DVD player (a Panasonic) is set to upconvert to 1080, but I haven't seen any problems like this before with it. One problem I did see was a disc that played fine on mine player, froze at the same point on a friends player. When I examined it further, there was a file corruption in my video editing project. When I trimmed this away and made a new DVD, everything was fine. Don't think I have seen anything related to HDMI yet though. Have you tried re-burning the disc?

29th August 2009	#7
wheels Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: LONG KAO Posts: 903	Re: Playing Non-progressive DVD on DVD Player in Progressive Mode Perhaps it could just be your conversion bitrate. You DVD player may not be able to handle the current bitrate you burn the DVD in. Lower it and try again. __________________ My Almost Daily Shooting

5th September 2009	#8
samvision Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 489	Re: Playing Non-progressive DVD on DVD Player in Progressive Mode have u tried on another dvd player or pc ? __________________ Sam Vocare Producer & Senior Editor ( www.vocaremedia.com )