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    Default Which strength filter for sunrise?

    Planning to get a simple ND filter for sunrise shots but can't decide which one would be better. ND2, ND4 or ND8? I'm thinking as the sun is not at its strongest maybe i can get away with an ND4 or even nd2?
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    Default Re: Which strength filter for sunrise?

    Hmm... why do you need an ND filter for sunrise?

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    Default Re: Which strength filter for sunrise?

    what is the purpose of using ND filter for sunrise?

    if you are really include the sun in your sunrise, why don't just simply increase the shutter speed?
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    I tried taking some from an aeroplane and it seemed to bright. How do you guys take sunrises? I'm aiming for half the sun above the horizon effect. Also, will it damage the sensor to aim right at the sun?
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    Default Re: Which strength filter for sunrise?

    I tink wat u need is a GND filter instead of ND...

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsigg View Post
    I tink wat u need is a GND filter instead of ND...
    Thanks. I thought about that but the screw in type has the graduation in the middle so i thought just a normal ND screw in type. I'm thinking COkin P-type filters a bit bulky for simple shot but maybe its worth it. Hmmmfff... got me thinking now.
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    Default Re: Which strength filter for sunrise?

    Quote Originally Posted by electron View Post
    I tried taking some from an aeroplane and it seemed to bright. How do you guys take sunrises? I'm aiming for half the sun above the horizon effect. Also, will it damage the sensor to aim right at the sun?
    If it's too bright then lower down exposure (either manually or via exposure compensation). For selective darkening use GND. Cokin works nice, don't know what is bulky about a piece of plastic filter holder and a filter. Take your time, setup the cam on tripod. Then you have hands free to adjust the filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electron View Post
    I tried taking some from an aeroplane and it seemed to bright. How do you guys take sunrises? I'm aiming for half the sun above the horizon effect. Also, will it damage the sensor to aim right at the sun?
    err, when u are composing the picture aiming at the sun, u will only damage your eyes as the mirror is not lifted up.

    u will probably only damage the sensor if u use bulb mode and expose the sensor for prolonged period to the sun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsigg View Post
    err, when u are composing the picture aiming at the sun, u will only damage your eyes as the mirror is not lifted up.

    u will probably only damage the sensor if u use bulb mode and expose the sensor for prolonged period to the sun.
    Heh.. thanks man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    If it's too bright then lower down exposure (either manually or via exposure compensation). For selective darkening use GND. Cokin works nice, don't know what is bulky about a piece of plastic filter holder and a filter. Take your time, setup the cam on tripod. Then you have hands free to adjust the filter.
    I guess you're right. If i use ND only, can't see the foreground! Thanks Octarine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsigg View Post
    err, when u are composing the picture aiming at the sun, u will only damage your eyes as the mirror is not lifted up.
    Ah, that's why we hear so much stories about eye damages... We are talking about sunset / sunrise here, not sun at High Noon.

    u will probably only damage the sensor if u use bulb mode and expose the sensor for prolonged period to the sun.
    That's the price for not having the faintest idea about photography. Everybody else will just get the pictures they want .. more or less .. without any damage to the camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsigg View Post
    u will probably only damage the sensor if u use bulb mode and expose the sensor for prolonged period to the sun.
    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    That's the price for not having the faintest idea about photography. Everybody else will just get the pictures they want .. more or less .. without any damage to the camera.
    Sorry a bit confused here. I take it that shooting into the sun will cause damage?
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    Default Re: Which strength filter for sunrise?

    Sun ray will damage DSLR sensor ?

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    Default Re: Which strength filter for sunrise?

    I have used NDs for sunrise / sunsets as well. But to smoothen the foreground waters. Stacked with a GND filter to balance exposure.

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    Default Re: Which strength filter for sunrise?

    for my.... daytime ND 4x is not enuff got very very smooth water.. Not sure abt sunrise...

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    Default Re: Which strength filter for sunrise?

    For me, the cheap cokins are my choice for GNDs though I rarely use them anymore due to my current obsession with HDR

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimePhotog View Post
    For me, the cheap cokins are my choice for GNDs though I rarely use them anymore due to my current obsession with HDR
    true, the cokin filters are economical and good for your wallet

    each one goes for about 12 bucks. and to TS, you have a budget for your filters?
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    Default Re: Which strength filter for sunrise?

    Quote Originally Posted by electron View Post
    Planning to get a simple ND filter for sunrise shots but can't decide which one would be better. ND2, ND4 or ND8? I'm thinking as the sun is not at its strongest maybe i can get away with an ND4 or even nd2?
    you don't need nd filters to shoot the sun ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimePhotog View Post
    For me, the cheap cokins are my choice for GNDs though I rarely use them anymore due to my current obsession with HDR
    tianyas are much more neutral than cokins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSuns85 View Post
    Sun ray will damage DSLR sensor ?
    no. not unless you do stupid things.

    there is a POSSIBLE issue with dslr with live view though.. if you keep pointing it at the sun, remember that the mirror is up, and you are focusing a strong light/heat source onto your sensor.
    Quote Originally Posted by electron View Post
    Thanks. I thought about that but the screw in type has the graduation in the middle so i thought just a normal ND screw in type. I'm thinking COkin P-type filters a bit bulky for simple shot but maybe its worth it. Hmmmfff... got me thinking now.
    screw in type means your horizon is fixed. means you only have half half composition all the time.

    don't be lazy and get a slot in type filter.

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