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    Quote Originally Posted by contaxable View Post
    Actually, they can be arrested if they are not from a genuine charitable organisation. IRAS has to know their revenue collected and i am inclined to think these fake monks will not file for taxable income.

    And, if i am not wrong, monks do not go around to ask for money as the only form of donation. They are supposed to have a bowl and ask for food! Not $500 with a pen and writing pad!
    No, in Singapore they do not. Not even asking for food, very unlike countries like Thailand, Burma etc etc..
    In short, in Singapore, any person appearing in monk/nun robes asking for anything is against the law. Therefore on the street if one is being approached, I believe the best action is to simply smile and walk away quietly.

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    It seems that nothing is real nowadays. Donors beware. Donate in kind, donate directly to the unfortunates, not through agents. The con jobs here in recent times are unbelievable. Devils in sheep clothing, I would say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChef View Post
    It seems that nothing is real nowadays. Donors beware.
    there are also fake blind man, fake handicap.
    Objection !!!

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    Living on people's compassion and generosity and have the cheek to defend in Court. Knew from day 1 that they are con artists and I am right.
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    money is the root of all evil.
    Objection !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives View Post
    money is the root of all evil.
    To put a general umbrella term, With Desire comes Suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limwhow View Post
    To put a general umbrella term, With Desire comes Suffering.
    so, if someone desires to suffer...how exactly would they...'suffer'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiruikage View Post
    so, if someone desires to suffer...how exactly would they...'suffer'?
    Lolxxx... wah, this will be OT OT OT a lot already lor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiruikage View Post
    so, if someone desires to suffer...how exactly would they...'suffer'?
    Suffer by the fact he/she is being stupid

    I had an experience when I was still in Hong Kong, living in Tuen Mun, I saw this fake monk soliciting an Indian man for money (he carried a bowl) at the Tuen Mun center, the Indian man refused to give. I boarded a bus below the center, and was surprises to see the same monk boarding the same bus as he was walking behind me all the way to the back of the bus. There he removed the monks robes and underneath was his normal cloths!!

    Sad to see this kind of scams going on, another day I saw another fake monk asking money from a western woman in Tsim Sha Tsui who also refused, I told the fake monk off and told the lady these are fakes, and monks are not allowed to ask for money.........

    Saw a few also in Singapore.......apparently, it is lucrative, otherwise they wouldn't do it. Once, a monk came to my door in Singapore (many years ago) asking for donations, and gave me one of those orange threads for my wrist, at the time I didn't know that they couldn't ask for money......anyway, done a good deed by being stupid

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    it's sad that the con men chose to dress up as monks to get their way. it gives the religion a bad name, which is i feel is undeserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives View Post
    there are also fake blind man, fake handicap.
    The syndicated con jobs have gotten a lot better - they use people with real handicaps like one hand missing. one leg missing etc. There was an expose in the press about one such syndicate before. Also had photos of the handicaps going in and out of a budget hotel (where they were staying!) before and after their 'shifts'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives View Post
    i am not been sarcastic. monks ask for food, they dont ask for money...yes, you can call police if you see a monk on the street carrying a bowl and asking for money.

    however, you can go to temple or monastery and donate money. but on the street is no no, it is against their practice.
    Quote Originally Posted by limwhow View Post
    No real monks or nuns from any Buddhist organisation in Singapore are allowed to be out on the street asking for donation.
    This is a true fact.
    Therefore any person dressed in a fashion that causes public members to believe that he or she represents a religious organisation, AND asking for donation, is unfortunately an imposter.
    No member of the public should donate.
    In fact, yes, one should report cases of these to the police for soliciting illegally.
    Quote Originally Posted by contaxable View Post
    Actually, they can be arrested if they are not from a genuine charitable organisation. IRAS has to know their revenue collected and i am inclined to think these fake monks will not file for taxable income.

    And, if i am not wrong, monks do not go around to ask for money as the only form of donation. They are supposed to have a bowl and ask for food! Not $500 with a pen and writing pad!
    Okay, honestly, had all of you not said what you all did, I would not have known that "fake" monks actually ask people for donation/food. I also would not have known that there are "fake" monks out there that actually ask for donation/food. Probably because I never experienced before. Though I've only seen monks in robes walking in groups, taking public transports etc etc..

    But.. don't judge me though, haha !

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    Never believe in them and those beggars and those selling tissue paper at food centre...

    I had a friend who paid $10 for 2 packets of tissue paper... I told him I dont believe in them...

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    in white robe nuns from Thailand.. didn't see them around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    Never believe in them and those beggars and those selling tissue paper at food centre...

    I had a friend who paid $10 for 2 packets of tissue paper... I told him I dont believe in them...
    did he paid $10 on his own will or they really asked for $10 nowadays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives View Post
    money is the root of all evil.


    Money itself is not evil. It is just excessive greed (in money , power etc) is the root of evil.

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    the pants and shirt are different leh,

    but thanks for busting the guy.
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    The WORST is what I've heard abt Sporean who gives them $$..

    Many knows/think they are fake, but of course none of us can proof it.
    SO their mentality is that its GOOD to give, MAYBE whatif they're real leh.
    And more importantly, they feel they're doing a gd deed and heavens sees it.

    I know its really hypocritically, but thats how it thrives in our society...

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    seeing this thread reminded me of something. last last week i saw this monk eating at swensen's + using iphone. he was sitting along the aisle, and all of us walked past him and could see his iphone while he was using it clearly. O.O

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    Quote Originally Posted by janicia View Post
    seeing this thread reminded me of something. last last week i saw this monk eating at swensen's + using iphone. he was sitting along the aisle, and all of us walked past him and could see his iphone while he was using it clearly. O.O
    must be one of ming yi's followers...

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