Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 44

Thread: Rights of a TFCD photographer

  1. #21

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by KSeet View Post
    Hmm ok. So if the photos are passed to the model, it belongs to the model also? Co-rights? Otherwise, no rights for model?
    Of course. It's TFCD. Even if I do processing, it's still her face on there and the shots were taken during the TFCD.

    But it all depends. I'll usually ask the model if she just wants the raw shots or can wait for the processed shots.
    Alpha

  2. #22
    Senior Member +evenstar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Singapore / United Kingdom
    Posts
    5,655

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    i believe a fellow forumer has also stated that there is no need for model release forms in sgp?
    eat. drink. shoot

  3. #23

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by +evenstar View Post
    i believe a fellow forumer has also stated that there is no need for model release forms in sgp?
    is that true? legally speaking, a model release form is not required? Inherent rights to the photographs belong to the photographer? Model no rights?

    i'm getting confused
    www.kelvinseet.com
    See the world through my eyes

  4. #24
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Pasir Ris, Singapore
    Posts
    14,002

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by KSeet View Post
    Do you guys usually give the full sized photos or reduce them?
    I always give full-size.
    Canon EOS 5D, 24-70 f/4 L IS, 50 f/1.2 L, 70-300 f/4-5.6 L IS, 600EX-RT. Sigma 12-24 f/4.5-5.6 EX.

  5. #25
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Pasir Ris, Singapore
    Posts
    14,002

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by Anson View Post
    Normally they don't forgot, it's after all their photos and they are often more eager to see it themselves. I always include a clause asking them if they want a CD instead, let me know before when.

    I think it make lives easier for both parties, unless you want to see the model again (for various reason).
    Not the case always. Twice i've models who never bothered to pick up their pics and are still with me, even after i reminded them.
    Canon EOS 5D, 24-70 f/4 L IS, 50 f/1.2 L, 70-300 f/4-5.6 L IS, 600EX-RT. Sigma 12-24 f/4.5-5.6 EX.

  6. #26
    Moderator catchlights's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Punggol, Singapore
    Posts
    21,901

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by KSeet View Post
    is that true? legally speaking, a model release form is not required? Inherent rights to the photographs belong to the photographer? Model no rights?

    i'm getting confused
    MR is not for the photographers, is for the people/company who BUY and USE these images, so to protect their rear, will ask for a MR come with the images.

    If you don't intend to sell the images, than can forget about getting MR, and in local, according to our Queen Counsel, so far nobody (models) able to find troubles on clients about MR thingy.

    anyway, if you need legal advice, go proper channel, best is to pay and consult a lawyer, listen to people in Kopitam TKSS can, but you will not get some solid help.
    Shoot to Live, Live to Shoot
    www.benjaminloo.com | iStock portfolio

  7. #27
    Deregistered shaoken's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Clementi/West Coast
    Posts
    2,115

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Sorry, just noticed this thread..

    That means a photographer shooting a model, even w/o the form, the full rights of the photo is with me?
    I can send the photo in for competition too?

    Please enlighten me.
    Thanks!

  8. #28
    Senior Member yilishengxian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Pandan 花园
    Posts
    3,925

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by Snoweagle View Post
    I used to place the photo folder in MSN then let them go download. Ever since the latest MSN 2009, they've removed the folder sharing option. Now have to do it online but troublesome.
    That shared folder option is still available. Just drag the images which you want to share into the dialogue box.

    I just upload a some selected images on my site and pass most the original (with processing) / scanned images to the model via sharing or cd.
    Every Photo Speaks for its Photographer. 开心就好。
    I wanna be the no.1 GWC !!!

  9. #29
    Moderator catchlights's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Punggol, Singapore
    Posts
    21,901

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    MR and copyrights is TWO different issue, mind go and read my post #1 about the MR blar blar blar wiki?

    for copyrights matter, please read the next post, taken from very reliable source..., definably not from kopitiam or school tuckshop.
    Shoot to Live, Live to Shoot
    www.benjaminloo.com | iStock portfolio

  10. #30
    Moderator catchlights's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Punggol, Singapore
    Posts
    21,901

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Regarding local copyrights issue, many local photographers have miscoception, we do not follow the copyrights law of US..

    I research the copyrights and ownerships issue on portrait photography, this is what I found

    Ownership

    Generally, the person who created the work (i.e. the author) owns the copyright in the work. However, there are exceptions to this general rule. Some exceptions are:

    Employment: If the work is created by an employee pursuant to the terms of his employment, the employer owns the copyright in the work.

    Special situation for newspaper/magazine/periodical employees: Where an employee of a newspaper, magazine or periodical creates a literary, dramatic or artistic work pursuant to the terms of his employment and for the purpose of publication in a newspaper, magazine or periodical, the proprietor of the newspaper, magazine or periodical owns the copyright in respect of publication in or reproduction for the purpose of publication in any newspaper, magazine or periodical. The employee owns the remaining rights that make up the copyright bundle of exclusive rights.
    Commissioning: If a portrait/photograph/engraving is commissioned by another party, the commissioner owns the copyright in the work. If the portrait/photograph/engraving is required for a particular purpose, this purpose must be communicated to the commissioned party. While the commissioner is the copyright owner, the commissioned party has the right to stop others from doing any act comprised in the copyright, unless such act is done for the particular purpose for which the portrait/photograph/engraving is created.

    For other types of commissioned works, ownership belongs to the commissioned party, unless the commissioner and commissioned party otherwise agree.

    As mentioned in the introduction, the copyright owner may transfer his rights to another party or entity either partially or wholly.

    taken from http://www.ipos.gov.sg/leftNav/cop/O...and+Rights.htm

    and also this

    1. Copyright Copyright at Work
    I provide photography services. Do I own the copyright to the photos that I take for my clients? If I don't, is there any way that I can own the copyright? I want to showcase the best photos in my website and brochures.

    In general, clients who pay for your services own the copyright to the photos taken. However, you have limited rights in that if the photos are required for any particular purpose (e.g. a corporate client wants glamour shots of the senior management, to use in its annual report), your clients should tell you and you are entitled to prevent the photos from being used for other purposes.

    In practice, however, many photographers have their own terms of engagement with clients. The parties are free to have their own agreement, which automatically overrides the above default position. Thus, for example, you and your clients can mutually agree that you will own the copyright in the photos but that your clients can use the photos for certain purposes; or that your clients own the copyright but you have the license to reproduce the photos in your website and brochures.
    In simple words, photographers does not own the copyrights of the photographs, from the moment we collect money from the our customers, unless both parties enter an agreement to supersede the default law. (see the print in blue above)
    Shoot to Live, Live to Shoot
    www.benjaminloo.com | iStock portfolio

  11. #31
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Pasir Ris, Singapore
    Posts
    14,002

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by yilishengxian View Post
    That shared folder option is still available. Just drag the images which you want to share into the dialogue box.

    I just upload a some selected images on my site and pass most the original (with processing) / scanned images to the model via sharing or cd.
    Hey long time no see! Last time the older MSN version 8 have this folder sharing option whereby i can just copy and paste the entire folder inside. This one also allows u to do the same?
    Canon EOS 5D, 24-70 f/4 L IS, 50 f/1.2 L, 70-300 f/4-5.6 L IS, 600EX-RT. Sigma 12-24 f/4.5-5.6 EX.

  12. #32
    Senior Member Anson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    ansonchew.com
    Posts
    8,210

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by Snoweagle View Post
    Not the case always. Twice i've models who never bothered to pick up their pics and are still with me, even after i reminded them.
    Personally I think if it is a TFCD shoot, and they never bother to pick up their photos (even after you reminded them) then it would be a little strange to me.

    For TFCD shoot if they say that they don't wish to download it from the internet (and have informed me beforehand), I am fine in burning a DVD for them. As I think it is part of my obligation.

  13. #33

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    Regarding local copyrights issue, many local photographers have miscoception, we do not follow the copyrights law of US..

    I research the copyrights and ownerships issue on portrait photography, this is what I found

    taken from http://www.ipos.gov.sg/leftNav/cop/O...and+Rights.htm

    and also this

    In simple words, photographers does not own the copyrights of the photographs, from the moment we collect money from the our customers, unless both parties enter an agreement to supersede the default law. (see the print in blue above)
    Thanks for the clarification bro. Appreciate your help!
    www.kelvinseet.com
    See the world through my eyes

  14. #34
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Pasir Ris, Singapore
    Posts
    14,002

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by Anson View Post
    Personally I think if it is a TFCD shoot, and they never bother to pick up their photos (even after you reminded them) then it would be a little strange to me.

    For TFCD shoot if they say that they don't wish to download it from the internet (and have informed me beforehand), I am fine in burning a DVD for them. As I think it is part of my obligation.
    Yeah it's a little strange to me too but it's a fact and it happened.
    Canon EOS 5D, 24-70 f/4 L IS, 50 f/1.2 L, 70-300 f/4-5.6 L IS, 600EX-RT. Sigma 12-24 f/4.5-5.6 EX.

  15. #35

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by Snoweagle View Post
    Yeah it's a little strange to me too but it's a fact and it happened.
    strange people exist
    www.kelvinseet.com
    See the world through my eyes

  16. #36
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Pasir Ris, Singapore
    Posts
    14,002

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by KSeet View Post
    strange people exist
    Yeah. In this world there're all sorts of people.
    Canon EOS 5D, 24-70 f/4 L IS, 50 f/1.2 L, 70-300 f/4-5.6 L IS, 600EX-RT. Sigma 12-24 f/4.5-5.6 EX.

  17. #37
    Senior Member Anson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    ansonchew.com
    Posts
    8,210

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by Snoweagle View Post
    Yeah it's a little strange to me too but it's a fact and it happened.
    Then I think if it is a TFCD shoot, the PG have done his/her duty already. If the "model", don't wish to keep their photos, then there is nothing the PG can do too.

  18. #38
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Pasir Ris, Singapore
    Posts
    14,002

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by Anson View Post
    Then I think if it is a TFCD shoot, the PG have done his/her duty already. If the "model", don't wish to keep their photos, then there is nothing the PG can do too.
    Yeah so nvm lah, i don't lose anything also. Only that they don't have their photos.
    Canon EOS 5D, 24-70 f/4 L IS, 50 f/1.2 L, 70-300 f/4-5.6 L IS, 600EX-RT. Sigma 12-24 f/4.5-5.6 EX.

  19. #39
    Senior Member Anson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    ansonchew.com
    Posts
    8,210

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by Snoweagle View Post
    Yeah so nvm lah, i don't lose anything also. Only that they don't have their photos.
    Bro, if I may OT abit. Curious how was the shots (special theme) ?

  20. #40
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Pasir Ris, Singapore
    Posts
    14,002

    Default Re: Rights of a TFCD photographer

    Quote Originally Posted by Anson View Post
    Bro, if I may OT abit. Curious how was the shots (special theme) ?
    What do u mean?
    Canon EOS 5D, 24-70 f/4 L IS, 50 f/1.2 L, 70-300 f/4-5.6 L IS, 600EX-RT. Sigma 12-24 f/4.5-5.6 EX.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •