If you have got a budget of 1k+, maybe it's more beneficial to get a 1000D + another lens. Maybe a 50mm f1.8 or 55-250.
about filters (another n00b question) can u attach more than one filter to a lens? or do u have to change filters, based on the situation? i also noticed (and a friend of mine who bought a 450D told me) that stores sometimes throw in a free UV filter, are those good enough? thanks
EDIT: and another question about EF/EF-S lenses.. u mentioned that EF-S lenses is for cropped sensors, like the 500D.. does that mean the 500D cannot use EF lenses?
Last edited by heshanj; 20th August 2009 at 09:38 AM.
I started with a 450D and a Tamron 17-50 f2.8.
I think this is a good setup for a newbie like me where I could explore abit of range and have a fairly good wide angle @ 17mm. Suitable for travel, candids, landscape shots or protraits though it may not be best for each class.
I recently got myself a 50mm f1.8 and its pretty fun to work with as well. If budget is tight for the time being, I think a 50mm f1.8 is good as well , because you can already start picking up the skills in DOF, Aperture, composition, lighting, noise, metering...etc.. with this setup and slowly build up vitamin M to get a better lens.
Hope this helps. : )
thanks papaho.. im trying to see if i can afford that tamron lens.. a lot of u guys seem to recommend it!
EDIT: alas, the tamron 17-50mm lens seems to be over SGD600.. way over my budget.. maybe i'll have to stick to the canon 18-55 kit lens for the moment!
about a flash, the canon speedlite 270 ok for a beginner? it seems the most affordable.. but i only looked at canon brand, so i dunno
Last edited by heshanj; 20th August 2009 at 09:53 AM.
You can do anything you want, question is if the result will be good. Personally, I feel that stacking filters is not a good idea if stacking them do not serve a specific purpose. Even when I do night photography, I take off all my UV/protector filters. This is because, every piece of additional glass in front of your lenses can degrade your image quality. It can also cause ghosting and flare. In certain situations, I stack filters, but this is ONLY when I use the cokin P filter system, and ONLY when the situation demands that I use more than 1 filter to achieve a certain effect. One thing I always tell myself: Less is More. Keep it simple. This is just my personal opinion. Others may have a different approach.
Free filters may or may not be the best. Most of the time, free stuff are less than spectacular. Shops run a business, they want to maximize profit, always remember that. I gave you a link to the good brands in a previous post in this thread. Read it up.
Lenses meant for FF (full frame, like 5D, 1D) can also be used on cropped sensor cameras like the 500D. It is harder the other way round where lenses made for cropped sensors when used on full frame cameras have the tendency to cause serious vignetting.EDIT: and another question about EF/EF-S lenses.. u mentioned that EF-S lenses is for cropped sensors, like the 500D.. does that mean the 500D cannot use EF lenses?
Last edited by daredevil123; 20th August 2009 at 10:11 AM.
As for an external flash, it makes a lot of difference if you go for the cheapest or go mid range. I strongly recommend the 430EX flash.
I am not a Canon user by the way. But I think Nikon, Canon, Sony, Pentax or even Olympus are fine choices. Personally if I have to start from scratch all over again, I would go for Pentax system, best value for money at this moment, in my opinion.
Last edited by daredevil123; 20th August 2009 at 10:13 AM.
thanks again, daredevil! i think i will definitely stick to the kit lens then, for the time being..
thanks for the tip on stacking filters.. yeah, i thought as much, that freebie filters wont be that good.. i did read the review page and i also checked up a couple of prices.. they dont seem that expensive, so i shouldnt have a prob affording a filter or two.. im not sure if i can afford the speedlite 430EX, which is over 500SGD i think? but yeah, maybe later on, again! btw, which camera do u own? just curious
im also researching on sony alpha cameras.. i notice that most of them use a CCD sensor, whereas most new cameras use CMOS.. is this a big difference, or just a matter of opinion again?
As for speedlite I am not sure.. I got myself a nissin(much cheaper) to fool around but realise that i could not use some of the built in features.. and I am still toying with the basics.. so I cant say much on this.
My DSLR setup so far:
Lenses: Tamron 17-50/2.8, Nikon 18-55 ED2, Nikon 55-200 VR, Nikon 50/1.8D. (I do use a lot other old lenses I have access to but do not own).
Flash: Nikon SB600, Stofen diffuser, Gary Fong lightsphere.
Filters: Cokin P system, Kenko Pro1 D protectors, Hoya both sides coated UV (kit lens), Tokina C-PL, Hoya ND4 and some others.
Tripod: old $50 Velbon CX-570
Yes, not the best equipment. Old technology and entry level. A lot of people "see me no up" Hahahahaha. I am cheap, what to do? I got the D40x and kit lens for free too.
Last edited by daredevil123; 20th August 2009 at 07:44 PM.
You take good photos. That's all that matters. Don't care what people say about your equipment.
The results speak for themselves.
One thing to note is that the technology has come to a point were CMOS can match the quality of CCD.
I am looking at the new Nissin Di866. It looks really good on paper. It is compatible with Nikon's CLS as well as color LCD, and orientation detection. It can command and trigger all Nikon wireless flash with iTTL. Very much like a SB900. And it costs $400, a very good deal.
oh ok.. i always thought (coz most DSLRs use CMOS?) that CMOS is the better technology..
and about flashes, i'll definitely try checking out some third party stuff.. its an exciting prospect, buying this camera n additional stuff, but im still on quite a strict budget thanks for the advice on keeping the total cost down, guys!
daredevil.. i guess ur setup may be average compared to some pros with lot of stuff, but it sounds pretty damn cool to me