I admire you bringing this out to discuss. I was in touch with some students from Jurong Junior College. Their Student leader, Felix, was like you but he took every thing one step further. They had a website that compiled information. They had discussion groups.
Perhaps you need to gather more size because with that, you can obtain more votes from the principal.
Anyway gd work so far. Dont worry about making leadership or other mistakes cause it makes you even better.
'Nothing to brag about, we are only as good as our next picture!'
from personal experience, if it's a part of another CCA, very likely it's just because the main CCA wants help for taking photographs for their own uses (websites/blogs/etc). if it's a standalone CCA, there'll be higher chance to instil the passion for photography in the students as the focus of the club is different.
eat. drink. shoot
Learn from Saint Andrew's Sec (my previous sch).
Started with 3 main members who own their own cameras without sharable lenses. 1 Nikon 1 sony 1 pentax. They were in sec2. Now they're in sec4 with 20+ members, another 5 or so bought their own cameras, school bought 2 x 30D, another 400D, kit normal / zoom lenses, flashes, 1 macro lens. This isn't counting the 3 other passionate freelancers with their own Canon gear like 450D and 50D.
How did they do it?
Challenges by the school to excel in competitions. Fun school events that are worth shooting. New gear. Good teacher who was a professional before taking up teaching Math.
Inline Culture (:
EDIT: Other than a little advice while I was shooting with them as a freelancer, I played no significant part in bringing up their standards. Perhaps ppl were comparing freelancers with members, but I highly doubt so. It was completely self driven by the members and teacher. No outside mentor or whatever.
Last edited by Headshotzx; 16th August 2009 at 11:03 PM.
I've dealt with various CCAs. What I noticed is a few issues in creating a good photography club in a secondary school.
1. Hierachy & Members
For example, juniors don't get to use the D-SLR until the seniors leave etc. All the important events are covered by seniors. Juniors get fed-up and leave the CCA.
My solution of this is to reduce the number of members in the club. 30-40 is ridiculous. Most students will just end up playing card games/slack-off/pontang since there is nothing to do.
Maybe you can discuss with your teacher to dispatch slackers to other groups, sabotage their performance, and pray for more funds. I know thats evil.
School refuses to provide enough funds or has placed funds to larger or more important CCAs.
For Hai Sing Catholic, the military band would already have absorbed most of the funds. 1 trumpet can buy you 2 50Ds. (Thats why I encourage schools to invest on chinese orchestra, choir & basketball. You pay minimum cost for equipment and instructors/conductors.)
Photography is arguably gear dependant. Assume you have 10 members. You will need...
5 standard Lens. (Tamron 17-50 f2.8 is the preferred choice. But since it's a 3rd party, the school may not consider it.)
2 decent telephoto zooms (80-200/70-200 of most brands are very affordable).
Assume this sums up to $12k. Laughable that I can only buy 2.5 tubas or hire a conductor/instructor for maybe 30-40 sessions.
3. Lack of Instruction/Self-Motivation.
This is a vicious cycle. No proper photography education -> lousy shots from students -> school not impressed -> lack of funds -> unable to hire trainer.
In this case, students have no choice to rely on themselves. I have work part-time as a school robotics trainer and chinese orchestra tutor, I actually find no reason why certain CCAs like robotics need a trainer. In our days, i learnt all we know by self-discovery. Unless students in recent years have become more dependant on spoon-feeding.
For a school, investing in photography does not increase the school's fame. Thats why most schools rather pump money into performing arts CCAs, sports or robotics...
Lol, talking about AHS when you referred to choir and basketball? The privileges that the choir ensemble receive are quite ridiculous, and I heard that the basketball team have priority when using the newly-built stadium.
Concert band... not really anymore
Also, have been trying to find those free workshops (some of the juniors are cash tight) to go.
Once again, a big THANK YOU to all suggestions given
I will be going to talk to the teacher in charge on tuesday (cca day) and will discuss with all the members of the cca too.
Last edited by ortega; 17th August 2009 at 01:12 AM.
Inline Culture (:
Try organising activities that will break the sterotype of students thinking that photog is for slackers/boring/nothing to do/rich people. For example, you can teach the members in your cca on how to make a simple pinhole camera with only a matchbox http://www.matchboxpinhole.com/ and perhaps organise a simple workshop for the rest of the student population. Or if you have the budget, try out underwater photography (pns with casing) where you can rope in the help of various scuba-diving clubs or nature conservation organisations to give an introduction or even joining them for their activites. I know it's not easy cose I had experience with starting up new ccas before. You need to have a clear idea of your objectives for your cca, get contacts and go from there. Having a supportive teacher-in-charge helps too. Good luck!
Go back to film...
make the students practise on the concepts of visualising the picture, and getting the end result from it. Each one shoots one roll and see what they have gotten out of it in the end. Just need to develope and scan the roll, then you can edit, view and compile the pics on digital format.
But before all these, they have to understand better on the technical points, etc.
you don't need a dslr to learn photography or take good pictures
work with what you have, file p&s also can
org outings and shoot good pictures
inspire the members by visiting web sites and discuss composition and techniques
produce the good images
and show the school just what you can do...
the key word is passion
once you have the passion, nothing is impossible
We must also rmb if such activities do not benefit the school, the school will not support. The best way to impress the school is by using good equipment to produce good shots during events. I stand to be corrected.
My own advice - don't depend on the schools or teachers
go out shoot on your own, if it's an idiot proof cam. Keep shooting, the more you shoot
the better you will understand and develop the eye for photography. Don't be limited
by your sch's lack of equipment or lack of enthus from friends or teachers.
Go look at exhibitions, go library flip through copies of photography magazines. Go
browse at bookshops. Go out and take photos alone, less herd mentality. Go do/shoot
different genre, events, weddings, still life, reportage...everything. Learn on your own
and you will thank yourself for the determination.
It's easy to buy a cam, not easy to be a good photographer with a heart.
Some feel buying some low level grade equipment is enough to produce award winning photographers at sch level.
Most see it as extra manpower to help provide free photography for sch events. Very disappointing mentality.
Last edited by sbs99; 17th August 2009 at 11:34 AM.
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how to improve?
spread the passion, instead of just sitting around settling for what is routine, what is normal.
if you have the passion, it will rub onto others as well. you don't need to achieve big things, like invite steve mccurry to give talks to your school.. every small thing even counts.