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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxshade View Post
    Eh, sorry... Not putting it down. Just that if I fail today, i can always retry again, again and again... until few years later I got the breath taking landscape picture right. Mt. Fuji isn't going anywhere in a hurry.
    I don't mind repeating the same shot until it is perfect. That is why I am confident.
    some time for landscape hor, the perfect lighting only happen once a year, if you miss it, never mind lar, can always try next year.

    and for wedding, if you miss it, can always try it again on next couple........
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    some time for landscape hor, the perfect lighting only happen once a year, if you miss it, never mind lar, can always try next year.

    and for wedding, if you miss it, can always try it again on next couple........
    sometimes it's just freak lighting..

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    some time for landscape hor, the perfect lighting only happen once a year, if you miss it, never mind lar, can always try next year.

    and for wedding, if you miss it, can always try it again on next couple........
    But hor, if we charge for the shots, wouldn't I end up in court house, kena sued by the couple whose wedding shot I screwed up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxshade View Post
    But hor, if we charge for the shots, wouldn't I end up in court house, kena sued by the couple whose wedding shot I screwed up?
    Thanks why always take many many shots. Those special moments shots are usually bonus for the couples. The standard shots and posed shots you will all have mah.

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    it seems that the TS does not like the answer that the D5K is good enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxshade View Post
    But hor, if we charge for the shots, wouldn't I end up in court house, kena sued by the couple whose wedding shot I screwed up?
    you will need a lot of photography skills, people skills and other skills to prevent screwed up, or do damage control.
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    the D700 would be the choice tool for professional wedding photographer

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    btw last time i shot my sister-in-law's wedding with an old Oly 5050Z
    the pictures still come out nice

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    You can only bring the horse to the water. You cannot make the horse drink the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    btw last time i shot my sister-in-law's wedding with an old Oly 5050Z
    the pictures still come out nice
    Hey the 5050Z was a damn good camera ok. I know people who still uses it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    it seems that the TS does not like the answer that the D5K is good enough
    oh ok...

    no, the d5000 is not good enough

    buying a d3x will make you good enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Hey the 5050Z was a damn good camera ok. I know know people who uses it.
    yeah the only thing i don't like is the shutter lag

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    yeah the only thing i don't like is the shutter lag
    Back then not much choice also la.

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    My objective view is that both the person (skill) as well as the camera (equipment) count towards the final product.

    Extreme examples of giving a monkey a D3x or Ansel Adams a pinhole camera may not assist the TS in understanding this. Also, I would say that an absolute "The man matters, the camera does not" may not be helpful either.

    It will be a sliding scale in between the extreme ranges, and whether the person matters more (note the use of the word "more", being a relative comparison) than the equipment is of course, a never-ending debatable point. My own view is that the person matters more but both the equipment AND the person matters.

    To illustrate using the F1 driver analogy that is being bandied around; if you take say, Schumacher in a cardboard flinstones car; vs a non-licensed driver in a F1 car; both will probably run into trouble and its hard to tell who will reach the finish line; will Schumacher in his flintstones car win (walking and carrying the car) or will the unlicensed driver crash? Or will the unlicensed driver drive at 10km/h cautiously (and still win because that's faster than Schumacher's walking pace)? Again it may not be so clear.

    If you then move towards the centre of the scale, say ask a normal F1 driver (ABC driver, not of Schumacher's standard) to drive say, an budget everyday car, say the Kia Piccanto vs say, a Singaporean race car hobbyist (ie he goes to Sepang to race with his friends for fun) in a F1 car; now who will win? Again it is not so clear now is it? Can we say "its the man, not the machine"? THe race car hobbyist may actually win even though he's of a lower skill level, simply because the Piccanto can never match up to the F1 car in terms of speed. All the hobbiyst needs to do is to ensure he doesn't crash, and hence instead of going to 300km/h in normal F1 races, he just needs to go around 150km/h and he will probably win the Piccanto (which for the purposes of discussion, say can go up to 100km/h).

    In my view, the key when making comparisons is to realise that actually both man and machine matter; although perhaps to varying degrees. And that is the crux of the discussion.

    To answer the TS, in my personal view, the D5000 or the like, will be sufficient for you to start off taking wedding photos; maybe for your friends, or as a tag-along 2nd photographer.

    As you grow into this area of photography and get more experienced, like many others before you; you will realise that your equipment may be limited in certain areas; and then you will then consider if you need the additional features and then you start to source for a camera with those features and yet at a price point that you can manage with your business model.

    I hope this is useful

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    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    btw last time i shot my sister-in-law's wedding with an old Oly 5050Z
    the pictures still come out nice
    because you are Mr Ortega.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    because you are Mr Ortega.
    because DSLRs were really really expansive at that time
    and i took the trouble to know my camera

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    wait.... i am not a pro so my views do not count

    listen to mr catchlights

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    soon we can start a DSLR QUESTIONS group

    founder will be , oh wait, i forgot threadstarter's name already

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    soon we can start a DSLR QUESTIONS group

    founder will be , oh wait, i forgot threadstarter's name already
    We shall call him.....SCHUMMI

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    Don't be so bad lar,
    may we do a final conclusion on the DSLR thingy.

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    Nikon D5000 is good enough for wedding photography
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    The better current Nikon DLSR body for wedding photography are, D60, D90, D300, D700, D3, D3X
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