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    Default Re: Help choosing a camera!! >.<

    nikon d3000
    canon 500d

    these 2 should b a good buy for starting out.

    Do note that there are lots of things to learn.
    even the best cam out there can take blur pic if the settings are wrong.
    it's a learning process on ur part to make good use of the equipments.

    ENJOY!!!
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    Ermmm. Are Canon and Nikon lenses interexchangable? What about external flash?

    I read a website and it says that Canon cameras do not have Auto ISO..? I'm not very sure when it was written but can anyone correct me on this? Is this important?

    Choosing between Nikon D3000 and Canon EOS 500D, which is recommended???
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    nope, the lenses are not interchangable...at least not without a convertor or sorts
    not sure abt flashes, as i'm a nikon users, i only use nikon flashes.

    if u r using nikon,it's best to use nikon lens, same for canon.

    there r 3rd party lense also like sigma, tokina, tamron...

    Auto ISO just remove 1 more factor that you hv to alter when taking ur pic. i guess it would b useful for a novice as you can concentrate more on taking the pic...

    ISO is how the pic reacts to the light.
    the lower the value, the better it is.
    at higher ISO value, u are introducing noise to ur pics which is undesirable.
    different cams hv different iso limits, so it's best to refer to the specific threads abt them.

    look at nikon d3000(which i think will b available later of this mth?) or 500d is a good bet too.
    it's best to feel them 1st.

    nikon d90 is a good buy too.
    as it has better iso performance compare to the d60,d5000 bodies and the kit len 18-105VR has a better reach too.

    these r my personal opinions
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    The DSLR will only provide you with the basic. You'll probably need to buy:

    1. dry cabinet

    2. macro lens for close-up

    3. longer lens if you want to shoot wild life

    4. flash

    5. camera bag

    Your bag will start getting heavier and heavier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavonex View Post
    The DSLR will only provide you with the basic. You'll probably need to buy:

    1. dry cabinet

    2. macro lens for close-up

    3. longer lens if you want to shoot wild life

    4. flash

    5. camera bag

    Your bag will start getting heavier and heavier.



    weight of equipment is inversely proportional to your bank account......

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    my suggestion is get a decent starter kit.

    jus take the pics 1st.

    as u move along, look at ur pics n c what u like to take.
    then invest in the necessary lens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavonex View Post
    The DSLR will only provide you with the basic. You'll probably need to buy:

    1. dry cabinet

    2. macro lens for close-up

    3. longer lens if you want to shoot wild life

    4. flash

    5. camera bag

    Your bag will start getting heavier and heavier.
    Oh.. ok~~!! =D Thanks thanks! How much does a macro lens usually cost?? For Nikon/Canon. The camera bag does not come with the camera?

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    Quote Originally Posted by janicia View Post
    Oh.. ok~~!! =D Thanks thanks! How much does a macro lens usually cost?? For Nikon/Canon. The camera bag does not come with the camera?
    Look in the priceguides section...
    Alpha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Look in the priceguides section...
    Erm ok thanks >.<

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    Ok i was reading this thread http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245883, and I was wondering, is it a must to get a UV filter? What is the UV filter thing for???

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennisc View Post
    500D okayish? It's really quite a powerful cam for its price, I've the chance to testdrive it the other time. Lightning speed focus. More than does it's job. You just need to upgrade the lenses in future, the body will prob last you a long time.

    from TS's list, i also recommend 500D.
    one thing is it has no restrictions on lens since it has built in autofocus motor.

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    Uh, Canon EOS SLR cameras have no autofocus motors. Try to not give salah info to newbies. Can confuse them one, you know.
    Last edited by YSLee; 11th August 2009 at 05:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janicia View Post
    Ok i was reading this thread http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245883, and I was wondering, is it a must to get a UV filter? What is the UV filter thing for???
    It's not a must, it's an option you can chose or skip. Some people use it as protector for the lens - and that's how all the sales guys come across. They address the kiasu feelings with "must protect, mah!" Personally, I prefer a lens hood and being careful. Although a filter might help to prevent water splashes hitting the front element it can also cause flare and ghosting when you have strong lights in the picture (e.g. sun, lights at night). Lens hoods don't have side effects. A lens hood shades the lens to prevent flare and it's also an elastic protector that can take some bumps. Some lenses come already with lens hood, for other you can buy either original ones or 3rd party (e.g. from Hoya).
    Lenses are built to work best without any filter. If you want a filter get a good one, don't skimp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YSLee View Post
    Uh, Canon EOS SLR cameras have no autofocus motors. Try to not give salah info to newbies. Can confuse them one, you know.
    Ehhhh... So this autofocus motors, what does it do? I read that some lens have it (is it the same thing...)? Does the Nikon D5000/D3000 have it? So if my lens has that AF thing, will it still autofocus on a camera that does not have autofocus motors??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    It's not a must, it's an option you can chose or skip. Some people use it as protector for the lens - and that's how all the sales guys come across. They address the kiasu feelings with "must protect, mah!" Personally, I prefer a lens hood and being careful. Although a filter might help to prevent water splashes hitting the front element it can also cause flare and ghosting when you have strong lights in the picture (e.g. sun, lights at night). Lens hoods don't have side effects. A lens hood shades the lens to prevent flare and it's also an elastic protector that can take some bumps. Some lenses come already with lens hood, for other you can buy either original ones or 3rd party (e.g. from Hoya).
    Lenses are built to work best without any filter. If you want a filter get a good one, don't skimp.
    Oh.... Hmmm. I see. >.< Thank you!! I think a lens hood might be a better option for me for the moment. Good filters are very expensive from what I have seen. =(

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    Simply put, AF requires a motor to move the elemens in the lens. The motor can be in the camera body or in the lens. Canon ditched its old mount in the 1980s to the current EF mount which calls for the AF motor to be in the lens, regardless. Nikon and the rest moved to AF with the motor in the body, and then started implemented motors in the lenses themselves. That also means they have a number of older lenses that require the camera to have the AF motor, which the D3000 does not have. So your conclusion is right, if the lens has the AF motor, you do not need the camera to have it.

    It might not be that big a thing for the D3000's case, especially if you're not going to spend that much on lenses. Weigh your budget against the camera.

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    I try to summarize so it's a bit clearer

    A lens requires a motorized function in order to have Autofocus (AF) capability.

    This motorized function can come from:
    a) a motor built into the lens itself
    b) a motor built into the camera body, that can turn a 'screw drive' in the lens

    Canon DSLRs have no AF motor built into the body. All their lenses that can mount onto Canon DSLRs have built-in AF motors.

    Nikon DSLRs can be used with all the newest Nikon lenses (duh) as well as all the older Nikon lenses.
    Quite a number of the older Nikon lenses can AF, but require a motor drive from the camera body.
    NOT ALL Nikon DSLRs have a motor built into the body. The entry-level models (eg. D3000, D5000, D60) don't have this motor.

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    My guess is: Nikon guessed that entry-level DSLR owners might likely only own the kit lens (which has built-in AF motor). Thus body AF motor was deemed unnecessary/costly/heavy, and was consequently removed.
    Exploring! :)

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    Ok see if I understand what the last 2 posts were about. Thanks for the explanations btw. =)

    D3000/D5000 does not have the built-in AF motors, but the new Nikon lenses have the motor thing? So it shouldn't really matter if my camera does not have the built-in AF motor, right? As long as my lenses have the AF motor thingy, it should work?

    Canon DSLRs also do not have the built-in AF motors, but all their lenses have it, right?

    AHHH this is confusing T_______T

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    Yes you are right.

    Nikon lenses with the built-in AF motor are denoted AF-S (autofocus-silent wave motor), or AF-I (quite uncommon).
    Exploring! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivangoh View Post
    nikon coolpix p90 has alot of noise, in low lighting, even at iso 100.

    Prosumer- good for all in one, from wide angle -> telephoto, do poorly on macro shot.
    Dslr- good for interchangable lens for individual needs, from wide angel- macro

    Get canon camera, its more affordable even for the lens.
    i so totally agree man...value for money too. and larger range.

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