View Poll Results: Would You Say The Pledge?

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  1. #41
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    No I did not - was in the bed caught a nap and it got extended till 9 pm. Long nap. LOL.
    Anyway cannot say as it start with "We, the citizens of Singapore". That auto exclude the rest who are not. Doing that may cause us trouble with our country of citizenship.
    Here in Singapore, all we do is to work, pay tax, pay rent, pay and pay, sometimes electronically, and not have any of the rebate or gst bonus etc, a little subsidy for polyclinic/govt hospital, but if got son then sorry sonny, you need to go do NS too.

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    I was at Courts shopping when they blasted out those who wan to say pledge can gather... i find that abit strange and abit over the top nationalistic to find people saying pledge at mrts and shopping malls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilya View Post
    I was at Courts shopping when they blasted out those who wan to say pledge can gather... i find that abit strange and abit over the top nationalistic to find people saying pledge at mrts and shopping malls.
    Most of us are introvert. We are not used to say..."I love Singapore" openly though we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    Most of us have said it countless times as students.
    So what is the big deal of purposely letting other people see us say it in public?
    What is the point?

    Compare two persons
    One Mr. A who has served NS, and countless ICTs, IPPTs, BCTCs etc....

    Another Mr. B "foreign talent" citizen who has never served NS and never will...

    B makes a big show of saying pledge in public.

    A does not.

    Draw your own conclusion.
    Come to think of it, the first line of the pledge is "We, the citizens of Singapore".

    Randomly pick 10 people off the streets, I wonder if > 50% are eligible to recite the pledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongping View Post
    Come to think of it, the first line of the pledge is "We, the citizens of Singapore".

    Randomly pick 10 people off the streets, I wonder if > 50% are eligible to recite the pledge.
    Haha, good one. Soon that line has to be changed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kongping View Post
    Come to think of it, the first line of the pledge is "We, the citizens of Singapore".

    Randomly pick 10 people off the streets, I wonder if > 50% are eligible to recite the pledge.
    depending where you pick the street I guess.
    cbd or orchard, standing in front of MOM or ICA, .. may be true
    outside army camp during book-in or book-out well..

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    "We, the PR of Singapore"...okay line change.

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    come on, we shouldn change the lines anyhow yea.
    it is not funny at all.
    this is serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon_84 View Post
    "We, the PR of Singapore"...okay line change.
    Hahaaa...funny but true. Last i recall 1/4 of the population are not true singaporeans. When asked the cheena serving girl at mos burger where to get serviettes she can only stare blankly. Old auntie cleaners at food courts get replaced by foreign talents who also can't speak english. What is this place coming to .....
    Last edited by ArchRival; 16th August 2009 at 02:24 PM.

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    MM Lee outlines two challenges for Singapore to undertake
    By S Ramesh & Hasnita A Majid, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 13 August 2009 2257 hrs

    SINGAPORE: Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew has highlighted two challenges for Singapore to undertake in order to do well in the next five to ten years.

    Speaking on Thursday at the annual National Day Dinner at his Tanjong Pagar constituency, the minister mentor said Singapore can reach a new level of development, but difficulties will crop up along the way.

    To resolve them, the nation must always face them squarely and work together.

    The first challenge is integrating new citizens and permanent residents (PRs) with the local population. The speed of this process depends on the openness of Singaporeans who are born and raised here, and the willingness of new citizens to adapt and be part of the Singapore society.

    Mr Lee explained that without immigration, the ageing problem will be too heavy a burden for the young. Immigrants who can be integrated without upsetting the racial balance are in Singapore's interest.

    He said: "We need immigrants to make up for the children we are not having. That's a very hard fact of life. Between age 25 and 40, more than 30 per cent are unmarried that means single and childless.

    "Those who marry have an average of 1.28 children replacement is 2.1. If we do not have educated Malaysians, China Chinese and India Indians and others from the region, our economy will decline and our labour force will shrink."

    Mr Lee, however, assured Singaporeans that the government is conscious of protecting the interests of citizens. In fact, there is a clear distinction between citizens and PRs in terms of HDB housing, hospital charges, education fees and the Resilience Package.

    On the other hand, he added that Singapore cannot make the immigration process so onerous that no one comes. For example, it cannot insist that PRs or new citizens be fluent in English when even some existing citizens are not.

    Mr Lee's second challenge is to encourage Chinese Singaporeans to speak more Mandarin and to take up scholarships to study in China's top universities.

    He said Singapore needs 200 to 300 A-level students to be proficient in both languages and cultures to manage the work with China both government-to-government and in the private sector.

    He added: "This does not mean we are displacing English as our working and common language our first language. English will remain the master language for all Singaporeans.

    Our new immigrants know that in Singapore, without an adequate command of English, they cannot go far. The command of English is the decisive factor for the career path and promotion prospects of all Singaporeans."

    As for the resident population, Mr Lee said the government is conscious of the need to keep the character and values of the Singapore society, so it is carefully controlling the inflow of PRs and new citizens to maintain this balance.

    - CNA/so


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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchRival View Post
    Hahaaa...funny but true. Last i recall 1/4 of the population are not true singaporeans. When asked the cheena serving girl at mos burger where to get serviettes she can only stare blankly. Old auntie cleaners at food courts get replaced by foreign talents who also can't speak english. What is this place coming to .....
    lol, perhaps you should use simple english next time, like for example; tissue paper instead of serviettes.

    ft is cheaper to hire as a cleaner nowadays...but sometimes i doubt their washing skills whenever i see a water stain on the forks/spoons...end up wiping it off with my own tissue instead.
    Last edited by Simon_84; 17th August 2009 at 10:29 AM.

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