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    I've seen nice B&W pic with a very nice contrast..How do you actually get nice B&W without the need for editing? Thanks..

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    Default Re: Nice Black n White Pic?

    wait for the right lighting like the old pros did

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    Or set your camera to "B&W" mode in the picture styles. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleanor15 View Post
    I've seen nice B&W pic with a very nice contrast..How do you actually get nice B&W without the need for editing? Thanks..
    shoot film.

    otherwise, b&w conversion, that step is the most important when converting digital color to bnw.. because it is the step that determines how you show what you want to show, and whether you have done it effectively.

    and leaving that conversion up to your camera... that is disgusting to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    and leaving that conversion up to your camera... that is disgusting to me.
    Well, it may be disgusting to you, but TS is obviously unwilling to do post-processing. So what else is left?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleanor15 View Post
    I've seen nice B&W pic with a very nice contrast..How do you actually get nice B&W without the need for editing? Thanks..
    there are some books in our National Library on B&W photography, some are for film and some are for digital.

    if you really want to know more about shooting b&w on film well, than you shouldn't miss the three books by the late Ansel Adam, the Camera, the Negative, the Print.

    hope this help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Well, it may be disgusting to you, but TS is obviously unwilling to do post-processing. So what else is left?
    paying people (e.g. me) to do post processing for them

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    write a action in Photoshop,

    apply desaturate
    apply auto level
    apply auto contrast
    save and close doc


    you can ran a batch process of converting a few hundreds files from color to b&w in less than 10mins.

    hope this help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lamergod View Post
    wait for the right lighting like the old pros did
    ?

    you should use film.

    somehow you can't replicate the film feel on photoshop.
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    which reminds me,

    never to use in-camera editing tools
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lomographer View Post
    which reminds me,

    never to use in-camera editing tools
    actually

    i used them for my amsterdam black and white shots.

    cos very free on the flight back, play and play until i get something i like, then minimal work back home.

    it depends, pentax editing can put filters, and not too much degradation of IQ

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    Shoot RAW. Get Lightroom. Install these presets. Have fun!

    http://www.presetsheaven.com/2008/10...for-lightroom/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Well, it may be disgusting to you, but TS is obviously unwilling to do post-processing. So what else is left?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleanor15 View Post
    I've seen nice B&W pic with a very nice contrast..How do you actually get nice B&W without the need for editing? Thanks..
    Those b&w pictures that you see, might have gone post processing.
    so nice b&w photos need photoshop!
    good luck and yes, b&w is very nice..
    Clean. Simple. Makes out a good composition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    shoot film.

    otherwise, b&w conversion, that step is the most important when converting digital color to bnw.. because it is the step that determines how you show what you want to show, and whether you have done it effectively.

    and leaving that conversion up to your camera... that is disgusting to me.
    in that case, film is disgusting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonnew View Post
    in that case, film is disgusting?


    wow, ok

    when you buy film, it jumps into your pocket and you pay...

    i don't think you have read up much about film

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post


    wow, ok

    when you buy film, it jumps into your pocket and you pay...

    i don't think you have read up much about film
    *seenoevil*
    Clean. Simple. Makes out a good composition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post


    wow, ok

    when you buy film, it jumps into your pocket and you pay...

    i don't think you have read up much about film

    Yes, I really do not know the technicality of film, but it was a more straight forward flow for me leave the tweaking to the lab

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonnew View Post
    Yes, I really do not know the technicality of film, but it was a more straight forward flow for me leave the tweaking to the lab
    well, when it comes to bnw film, they have different tones, contrast level, grain,etc.. so all these are set for you in the film , in some sense, compared to like.. digital, where if you take iso100 well exposed all will tend to have the same contrast (given same light), same tones (given same workflow of bnw conversion)..

    so for film choice, it depends on personal preference of matching film type to subject. for example, i haven't had the chance to use tri-x, but to me, it is beautiful for portraits.
    Last edited by night86mare; 14th July 2009 at 10:41 PM.

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    yes, I know it is definitely more complicated than I make it out to be, but I what I really meant was for the general population of "photographers", film used to be more straight forward workflow. Not many people had a darkroom to do tweaking whereby now everbody owns some sort of a digital darkroom and suddenly, tweaking is a must for even everyday photography. Digital age is supposed to make things easier, but itseems like we are spendng more time tweaking photos now.

    Maybe someday, fujifilm, kodak , agfa, and all other film makers, will release firmwares where we coud load into our cams to make the pics look like the products of their film....that might be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikonnew View Post
    Maybe someday, fujifilm, kodak , agfa, and all other film makers, will release firmwares where we coud load into our cams to make the pics look like the products of their film....that might be fun.
    i won't mind. i'm sure velvia would be very useful

    well, last time, most people not using slr due to huge costs (as fraction of pay), now it is getting cheaper, and people are also more willing to spend on such things. digital also much easier to tweak compared to dark room, you already will have existing infrastructure (i.e. computer), whereas darkroom requires one to set up something.

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