"I am so passionate that I am willing to spent more than $1000 of my savings on buying a professional DSLR camera."
"3. You will receive both the enhanced photos, and the Original high quality RAW format photos." - HongRay
1000D is a professional camera, then those xxD & xD are junk camera to him...
He actually send misleading message to people as well claiming high quality RAW.
How high quality a 1000D RAW can produce.
Last edited by playplay; 25th June 2009 at 10:29 PM.
he learnt photography phrase by phrase btw...
ah yah, i think he's just way too young la. has no idea about the going rates and stuff.
he's pictures are far from what I think I could safely say most of us would call quality shots.
i think he's just looking for a quick buck. hopefully he's as passionate as he claims to be la.
D3s - (24-70 f/2.8)
D700 - (14-24 f/2.8)
It seems that he had just increased his rates
actually, it's a brilliant business opportunity. i will accept those people asking for $400 weddings, or $150 D&Ds, and sub-contract it out to him, then pocket the difference! just stay home, click-click, answer emails and phones, and make money.
tsk. you guys spoil my business..now he increase rates
you are putting professional middlemen like me out of a job! how to feed my family (of ants), pay my (non-existent) bills, and my wild parties at night?
haha take it easy guys... it's obvious your business won't suffer because of photographers like that. unless, of course, you provide the same value as he does?
If you go here http://hongrayphotography.webs.com/a...otographer.htm, you will find the ultimate words of wisdom at the bottom:
"A person really passionate in photography always produces very good shots in all circumstances"
I remember many years ago, which at the time I join CS, one photographer offer $500 wedding photography package, which include service, digital images, 4R prints and album, coffee table album, DVD slideshow.
it also like open a can of worms, became one of the hottest thread, original thread was locked, but another new thread was started for slamming.
now this is sound so déjà vu.
I will not go into the business until I learn the tools of the trade.
That's still not enough...
he is just a kid...still schooling.
give him a break...
just wrong choices of words in his website.
we were young and stupid once...arent we?
To be fair to Hong Ray, he is just like to rest of us, trying to earn some bucks out of photography. Some to feed family, some to buy equipment to pursure passion.
There's no right or wrong to what one charges, if your client like your work, they will pay whatever you charge, if they don't, they won't even waste time out with you even if it's free. So I don't think he is stepping on anyone's foot nor is he spoiling market.
It's obvious he can hardly call what he charges as 'earnings' , I might be wrong but I think he just wants to gain some experience and chances to shoot while at the same time, give him some 'allowances' since he is still schooling.
Bottomline, he's a decent chap using a decent means to make a little money, that's all.
We should show some encouragement so he will grow with his passion.
No Business senes as this is killing the photography business faster than the current financal meltdown......
Even if I am young and not too bright, but if I am passionate about photography, I would have got some photography books and magazines to go through techniques and other pictures.
And then I would realise my standard is so far off, and not publicise myself as a premium photographer. I would also consider taking up courses, if I can afford it, to improve myself.
That would be what I do.
i guess people will still pay for his serivce, cos for sure i wont mind... cos beauty is in the eyes of the beholder... some one junk might be others jewels.... i dont mind using him if he provides me all the taken pic... out of 1000, i only need 50 max... damn worth it i think... anyway, pictures is for keepstake... not for competitions use, for sure i wont care what compositions goes into it... that is just me....
life is but a dream...
Hey my 1000d can take good pictures ok! D:
Ok guys, lets get it straight...
1. You cannot control his pricing, if there offers there will be takers.
2. 1000D is not very different from 400D. There has obviously been very good photographs from a 400D.
3. There is no way to determine how passionate he is by looking at his photographs. Low-skilled or inexperience NOT EQUALS not passionate.
4. If you are a professional photographer there is simply no reason to feel threatened. If you have a solid portfolio, you will have clients who are out for quality. (Those doing wedding photographer know this very well.)
Guys take a deep breath hold hold hold and exhale slowly. A some what misguide youth who has no real idea what are the requirements There is a difference from a proper course and learning from the web and books. Otherwise why are there still course conducted by real pros that are in the hundred to the the thousands. There is also a great difference in the blind leading the blind and the sighted leading the blind.
Any client that choose to use him after see the portfolio is I think a client you do not want to have. A total price only client is one that is liable also to find all ways and means to withold payment after delivery or literally a you do it for free client.
I wonder if he does post processing - not charging could mean none is done - some pictures there suggest a lack of proper PP.