PINK is IN :))

orionmystery · 24th June 2009

Ok ok, not really colorful, just pink bg but isn't it good to get away from black bg once in a while?

zh3ng · 24th June 2009

Wow! i never go into such magnification before. Care to share your setup?

EDIT: saw your other thread, great MPE65.!

jameskkmok · 24th June 2009

Nice, that very close.

PennyTan · 24th June 2009

Wow! What insect is this? Amazing to see so much details. Good shots.

orionmystery · 24th June 2009

Thanks, zh3ng, jameskkmok and PennyTan

zh3ng, yes, MP-E65 and diffused MT-24EX. Wasn't really high mag though..no more than 3X i think. The longhorn beetle was quite big.

PennyTan, it's a longhorn beetle

shiyingwong · 24th June 2009

wow....really nice....these shots doing in door?

orionmystery · 24th June 2009

Originally Posted by shiyingwong

wow....really nice....these shots doing in door?

Thanks, shiyingwong. It was shot outdoor where i found the bug ie bkt tinggi, pahang (berjaya hill). The red/pink in the bg was from a bromeliad plant

Numnumball · 24th June 2009

Great series!

orionmystery · 24th June 2009

Originally Posted by Numnumball

Great series!

Thanks, Numnumball

tchuanye · 24th June 2009

Nice close up! perhaps to get more parallel to the subject to get both eyes sharp? not sure if the DOF is too thin for your set up?

orionmystery · 24th June 2009

Originally Posted by tchuanye

Nice close up! perhaps to get more parallel to the subject to get both eyes sharp? not sure if the DOF is too thin for your set up?

Thanks, tchuanye. Getting parallel to the subject is one way...but it gets a bit boring after a while. Focus stacking is another option.

DOF is very thin esp at high mag, and you don't want to keep the F number too high and end up with soft image due to diffraction.

effective f number = f number x (magnification + 1)

I wouldn't go above F16 (max) at 1:1...even then the DOF is only about 1mm

tchuanye · 24th June 2009

Originally Posted by orionmystery

Thanks, tchuanye. Getting parallel to the subject is one way...but it gets a bit boring after a while. Focus stacking is another option.

DOF is very thin esp at high mag, and you don't want to keep the F number too high and end up with soft image due to diffraction.

effective f number = f number x (magnification + 1)

I wouldn't go above F16 (max) at 1:1...even then the DOF is only about 1mm

Agree, focus stacking would make image more interesting from another angle. But needs subject to cooperate to stay still!

You are definitely not a newbie! your shots are very high standard!

keep posting!

shiyingwong · 24th June 2009

Originally Posted by orionmystery

Thanks, shiyingwong. It was shot outdoor where i found the bug ie bkt tinggi, pahang (berjaya hill). The red/pink in the bg was from a bromeliad plant

outdoor can do so sharp and so high mag....really high techic

...
I like them... MP-E 65mm will it always be too close to the object?

orionmystery · 24th June 2009

Originally Posted by tchuanye

Agree, focus stacking would make image more interesting from another angle. But needs subject to cooperate to stay still!

You are definitely not a newbie! your shots are very high standard! keep posting!

Yep...subject needs to be cooperative for stacking to work. Manual stacking in photoshop is still possible if there's only slight movement.

Not really a newbie, i think?

..Bought my first macro lens Tamron SP90 in July 2007, then MP-E65 in Dec 2008.

Originally Posted by shiyingwong

outdoor can do so sharp and so high mag....really high techic ...
I like them... MP-E 65mm will it always be too close to the object?

Thanks

. MP-E65's maximum working distance is 4".

The working distance at different mag:
1X - 4", 2X - 2.5", 3X - 2", 4X - 1.7", 5X - 1.6"

shiyingwong · 24th June 2009

Originally Posted by orionmystery

The working distance at different mag:
1X - 4", 2X - 2.5", 3X - 2", 4X - 1.7", 5X - 1.6"

wah...that's means with out a ring flash ...it will be quite hard to work...@@
Thanks for sharing....
I'm a newbie in Canon....
Now surveying some macro lens also even I don have enough money...

ex0rzist · 24th June 2009

Amazing magnification.........This is only 3x magnification........i can only imagine going at 5x with the MP-E65. Nice series. Hope to see more postings from you.

orionmystery · 25th June 2009

Originally Posted by ex0rzist

Amazing magnification.........This is only 3x magnification........i can only imagine going at 5x with the MP-E65. Nice series. Hope to see more postings from you.

Thanks, ex0rzist. 5X is really tough and the images often turn out soft even when shot at F5.6 [effective f number = 5.6 x (mag +1) = 33.6 already.. ] and DOF is really thin...need to stack many shots to get decent DOF.

For example this shot at 5X...at F7.1...the DOF is razor thin

Originally Posted by shiyingwong

wah...that's means with out a ring flash ...it will be quite hard to work...@@
Thanks for sharing....
I'm a newbie in Canon....
Now surveying some macro lens also even I don have enough money...

Many people i know use a diffused speedlite (eg 580 or 430) on bracket...with ballhead. The jumping spider shot above was lit with a diffused 580EXII. I am now using MT-24EX twin flash though.

It's wise to survey as early as you can

shiyingwong · 25th June 2009

Wah....what a big eyes...blinking blinking....ha ha ....

orionmystery · 25th June 2009

Originally Posted by shiyingwong

Wah....what a big eyes...blinking blinking....ha ha ....

I know...it's so cute. I love jumping spiders

. It's lit with a diffused 580EXII.

mnmohamed · 25th June 2009

Fantastic series!

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orionmystery Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: KL Posts: 561	PINK is IN :)) Ok ok, not really colorful, just pink bg but isn't it good to get away from black bg once in a while?

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zh3ng Member/Tangshooter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tampines, Singapore Posts: 522	Re: PINK is IN :)) Wow! i never go into such magnification before. Care to share your setup? EDIT: saw your other thread, great MPE65.! __________________ my flickr \| Tangshooters Last edited by zh3ng; 24th June 2009 at 05:34 PM.

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jameskkmok Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,415	Re: PINK is IN :)) Nice, that very close.

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PennyTan New Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5	Re: PINK is IN :)) Wow! What insect is this? Amazing to see so much details. Good shots.

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orionmystery Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: KL Posts: 561	Re: PINK is IN :)) Thanks, zh3ng, jameskkmok and PennyTan zh3ng, yes, MP-E65 and diffused MT-24EX. Wasn't really high mag though..no more than 3X i think. The longhorn beetle was quite big. PennyTan, it's a longhorn beetle

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ex0rzist Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jurong West Posts: 611	Re: PINK is IN :)) Amazing magnification.........This is only 3x magnification........i can only imagine going at 5x with the MP-E65. Nice series. Hope to see more postings from you. __________________ My Flickr Canon 40D 18-55/50mm F1.8/100mm Macro F2.8 USM

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shiyingwong Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 121	Re: PINK is IN :)) Wah....what a big eyes...blinking blinking....ha ha ....

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mnmohamed Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 169	Re: PINK is IN :)) Fantastic series!