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    today i went out shooting with my friend who had just recently bought a new canon500d, and i realized that my filter is so dark(tinted) compared to his. Now, i somehow think that the reason why my photos are so dark is because of the filter (HOYA 58mm NDX4).

    is there anyone here who uses the same filter? is it good is it bad?

    the long and short of it, im gonna buy a new lens real soon.

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    Two seconds of googling produced this:

    your filter -> http://www.amazon.com/Hoya-NDX4-Filt.../dp/B00009R97O

    what is it -> In conditions of extreme light intensity, such as sunshine on snowy mountains or on the beach, or when using a camcorder, ND (Neutral Density) filters are recommended as essential.Neutral Density filters are often ignored by photographers, but they have several uses and offer the possibility to achieve otherwise unachievable results. ND filters appear gray and reduce the amount of light reaching the film, they have no affect on color balance.

    Google saved me the trouble of trying to explain what a ND filter is. And googling could have saved you a few dollars and avoid getting a filter you don't want even if you know nothing about filters.

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    thanks for the quick reply. the filter im using isnt actually that bad, it's just that im feeling the picture more with a UV filter that i tried this afternoon. so yeah im still going to buy one. HOYA 58mm NDX4 just wouldnt cut it for me in low-light situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gripmaster View Post
    thanks for the quick reply. the filter im using isnt actually that bad, it's just that im feeling the picture more with a UV filter that i tried this afternoon. so yeah im still going to buy one. HOYA 58mm NDX4 just wouldnt cut it for me in low-light situation.
    Why on earth are you shooting with a ND4? Are you even aware of when to use what filter?

    The UV filter has little use in digital photography except to protect the lens. And ND4 filter is a special-use filter. It's almost *never* used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gripmaster View Post

    the long and short of it, im gonna buy a new lens real soon.
    Why? What does your lens have to do with your illogical and ill-informed filter choice?
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    ooooops! what i meant was FILTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by gripmaster View Post
    ooooops! what i meant was FILTER
    Well, while a UV filter is an ok choice to act as protection for your lens, do you really need it? Any added filter will result in image degradation. You'd need to pay 60-80 SGD for the ultra-high-end filters to minimize this effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gripmaster View Post
    today i went out shooting with my friend who had just recently bought a new canon500d, and i realized that my filter is so dark(tinted) compared to his. Now, i somehow think that the reason why my photos are so dark is because of the filter (HOYA 58mm NDX4).

    is there anyone here who uses the same filter? is it good is it bad?

    the long and short of it, im gonna buy a new lens real soon.
    The main purpose of using neutral density filters is to reduce the amount of light that can pass through the lens.

    As a result, if a shutter speed is kept the same, after adding a neutral density filter, a larger aperture must be used to obtain the same exposure.

    Similarly, if an aperture is kept the same, after adding a neutral density filter, a slower shutter speed must be used to obtain the same exposure.

    ND filters help us in at least three situations: (1) reduce the intensity of light; (2) use slower shutter speed; and (3) use larger aperture.
    Last edited by Diavonex; 17th June 2009 at 03:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aspenx View Post

    what is it -> In conditions of extreme light intensity, such as sunshine on snowy mountains or on the beach, or when using a camcorder, ND (Neutral Density) filters are recommended as essential.Neutral Density filters are often ignored by photographers, but they have several uses and offer the possibility to achieve otherwise unachievable results. ND filters appear gray and reduce the amount of light reaching the film, they have no affect on color balance.
    I've already quoted that from amazon but TS didn't seem to understand.

    Maybe it'll be better to suggest a good protective filter to him instead.

    For me, I love my Nikon NC filter. Try looking for the 58mm version in OP. Don't even need $40 to get one of the best there is (Nikon and B&W).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gripmaster View Post
    today i went out shooting with my friend who had just recently bought a new canon500d, and i realized that my filter is so dark(tinted) compared to his. Now, i somehow think that the reason why my photos are so dark is because of the filter (HOYA 58mm NDX4).

    is there anyone here who uses the same filter? is it good is it bad?

    the long and short of it, im gonna buy a new lens real soon.
    I AM GOING TO FAINT.....






    and what has the correct filter gotta do with your purchase of a new lens?????

    dude. so many correct advices given and you just dun get it. i shall make it simple.

    go buy exactly the same filter that your friend has. so it wun be so dark when you take pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gripmaster View Post
    today i went out shooting with my friend who had just recently bought a new canon500d, and i realized that my filter is so dark(tinted) compared to his. Now, i somehow think that the reason why my photos are so dark is because of the filter (HOYA 58mm NDX4).
    Shouldn't your camera compensate for the light loss to get the correct exposure anyway? Unless you have some limiter or use manual mode...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gripmaster View Post
    thanks for the quick reply. the filter im using isnt actually that bad, it's just that im feeling the picture more with a UV filter that i tried this afternoon. so yeah im still going to buy one. HOYA 58mm NDX4 just wouldnt cut it for me in low-light situation.
    Hi bro i think u really need to work on ur basics.. read up more about filters before u get urself so confused and upset about ur photos...

    UV filters are not equal to ND filters... they serve different functions. ND filters are MEANT to reduce light to ur lens, to allow you to use a slower shutter and/or bigger appeture, for example when u want to take flowing waters in bright sunlight.

    for ur info yours is ND4 there are even darker ND8 ND16 filters and lighter ND2 filters
    Last edited by tunge; 17th June 2009 at 11:24 AM.

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    of so many years in shooting, I ever heard about using PL/CPL filter as protective filter, but I must admit, this is the first time I know somebody really put on a ND4 filter on lens all day long, and don't know what the filter for.

    TS, you win liao.

    anyway, just to tell you that if you go Sentosa beach, it is nice to put on a pair of sun glasses, but nobody will wear a sun glass in indoor or go yo see a movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    of so many years in shooting, I ever heard about using PL/CPL filter as protective filter, but I must admit, this is the first time I know somebody really put on a ND4 filter on lens all day long, and don't know what the filter for.

    TS, you win liao.

    anyway, just to tell you that if you go Sentosa beach, it is nice to put on a pair of sun glasses, but nobody will wear a sun glass in indoor or go yo see a movie.
    that's a good analogy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gripmaster View Post
    thanks for the quick reply. the filter im using isnt actually that bad, it's just that im feeling the picture more with a UV filter that i tried this afternoon. so yeah im still going to buy one. HOYA 58mm NDX4 just wouldnt cut it for me in low-light situation.
    well it isnt actually that bad? juz simply try shooting without the filter and see the diff, you'll know what everyone's trying to say ...

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    All right everyone. I think i already understand what everyone is trying to say. Well went out shooting again this morning and i noticed that without the ndx4 filter the photos looked better.

    Thanks for the humble replies.

    I shall close this thread already.

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