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  • Yes, the might of the German Army, Panzers, Luftwaffe and German Leadership can stop the invasion

    8 29.63%
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    18 66.67%
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Thread: Military Discussion : D-Day (Operation Overlord 06 June 1944)

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    Default Re: Military Discussion : D-Day (Operation Overlord 06 June 1944)

    Quote Originally Posted by NineEleven View Post

    Does anyone remember when was Hitler assassinated? He lost one side of hearing after that.
    he wasn't assassinated. he had an attempted assassinations on him, though.
    chicken fight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Tiger View Post
    Having said, I decided to post : No, which the German will stop be able to stop the invasion force.

    Here a few points :

    1) I felt that even if the Germans decide to commit Full Force to stop the invasion,
    the deployment of Panzer divisions to Normany region may take days from Paris and elsewhere in France.

    2) During the movement to Normandy, the panzers would have been heavily bombard by Allied airpower in the day as Allies would anticipate the German move, and will came to a halt during day time.

    3) The panzers will only move in the night with tactical lights, which will delay precious hours every day.

    4) Main road towards Normandy would have been destroyed by Allies Air Force,
    forcing the panzers to move in cross-country area.

    5) By the time the panzers arrive in Normandy, say D+7, the Allies force would have
    establish the beachhead and push forward inland.
    The Allies may suffer even more heavy losses then during the battle with concentrate panzers attack, but will still hold firm to the ground, with strong Allies Air power support.
    I watched History channel on SCV and with regards to the panzer division not being sent, apparently the Allies used up their spies to give false information to the Germans, leaking false information so that there would be no panzer line up at the beaches

    also , prior to the event, all intels were hushed, to avoid leaks, and there was even once when a newspaper article had a crossword puzzle and the operation codename to commence the attack was published as part of the crossword and it freaked out the command that they postponed it
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Tiger View Post
    Hi Xtol19
    I would like to share an historical incident on how devastating fighters/bombers would be even if they miss highly mobile targets with dumb bombs.

    In 18 July 1944, German tank Battalions, SS-Heavy Tank Battalions 103, was deployed in a small town of Emieville.

    Prior to engagement with the Allies, the Allies airforce carpet bombing the town of the Emieville with 500 & 1000 pounds of high explosive bombs.
    Tiger tanks survived the attack and engage the Allies armour.
    When the Germans engaged the Allies, they found that their Tiger tanks had suffered more than just external damage.
    All their tanks' guns were completely out of alignment with the sights, due to the air bomardment.
    The Germans tank commanders were shocked and devastated as they would need to fire 3 rounds in order to justify the correct line of fire during engagement.


    Should Allies found panzers in the areas, they would usually call for air support before engagement.
    They would target the tank, if possible, if not, the nearby building, to create after shock or disable the tank movement.



    The best classical example to airpower versus armour would be Falaise Gap.
    It would be the "Corridor of Death" for the German Panzers.



    General Dwight Eisenhower inspecting a knock out Tiger tank by Allies air bombardment.

    Well said. The most valuable ability of tanks are their ability to '1 rd 1 kill' if zeroed correctly. Even if air bombardment cannot destroy the tanks, disabling their guns due to misalignment is just as good.

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    Default Re: Military Discussion : D-Day (Operation Overlord 06 June 1944)

    i remembered in a show tank overhaul, sherman crews described the tiger tanks being flip over like a can of sardines when there's carpet bombing in the area where they are being reported.

    the tiger fearsome 88mm would set a sherman tank on fire if the round hits the ammunition dept of a sherman.
    the sherman frontal armor is no match for the the tiger frontal armor in 1 on 1 situations.
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    Default Re: Military Discussion : D-Day (Operation Overlord 06 June 1944)

    President Obama with World Leaders at Omaha Beach on 06 June 2009
    to mark the 65th anniversary of D-Day.
    Last edited by King Tiger; 11th June 2009 at 12:18 AM.
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    Default Re: Military Discussion : D-Day (Operation Overlord 06 June 1944)

    World Leaders and hundreds of World War II veterans mark the 65th anniversary of D-Day.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qi6B...eature=related


    President Obama pays tribute to D-Day veterans.
    This part, I like his messgae best : We must not Forget
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kp142oiPBE&NR=1


    World leaders pay homage to D-Day's Veterans
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCDNH...eature=related
    Last edited by King Tiger; 11th June 2009 at 12:35 AM.
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    President Obama pays tribute to D-Day veterans.
    This part, I like his messgae best : We must not Forget
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kp142oiPBE&NR=1


    the sad thing is after 2 more generations, people forget because no one talk about it anymore.
    eg. the tiananmen incidents. ask any chinese, they have little or no knowledge of it.

    we know D-day because the veteran still around. when they are gone who will pass down the events, history book?

    Or maybe another D-day in our generation or our children generation.

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