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    Default How to SHOW lighting set-ups for discussion

    Imagine trying to ask a question like ...

    hey guys, I wanna do a soft-lit, portrait but all I have is two Vivitar 285s and optical slaves. No umbrellas or softboxes. If I place one 285 say on the left and one 285 just behind the subject, but instead of firing the flash into the subject's back for hairlight, can I fire the unit into the wall on the subject's left and hope that the bounced flash will provide both a hair light as well as a global fill?

    It would be soooo much easier and clearer if you used a diagram like this:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/18899367@N00/1496142120/



    It makes visualising what you have in mind SOOOO much easier.

    Sometimes, it might actually help you get a clearer idea of what you want to try to achieve.



    You can get the free softwares here:

    http://www.diyphotography.net/lighting-diagrams

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    thanks for sharing, it is a great tool for discussion on lighting set up.
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    LOL... orthographic projection... only plan view, don't have side & front? 1st/3rd angle projection
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    I think it would be very much easier for anyone, not just newbies to use these programs to illustrate what they have in mind, or to share and discuss.

    Also much less confusion and headaches trying to intepret some of the lighting set-up descriptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt View Post
    LOL... orthographic projection... only plan view, don't have side & front? 1st/3rd angle projection
    Actually I came across a 3D scalable program for lighting set-ups, including varying the intensity of the lights and what effect it would give, but it was only in development stages then IIRC. Search around lah, rip then come back and share with us!

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    Looks good, thanks for sharing DM!

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    actually, nowadays 3D rendering programs have the lighting system built in, probably if everyone uses a common open platform like say blender, i dun mind developing the low polygon lights model, can do 3 view direct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luna_sea83 View Post
    Looks good, thanks for sharing DM!
    My pleasure. Good thing must share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt View Post
    actually, nowadays 3D rendering programs have the lighting system built in, probably if everyone uses a common open platform like say blender, i dun mind developing the low polygon lights model, can do 3 view direct.
    Develop lah, then we test for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dream Merchant View Post
    My pleasure. Good thing must share.
    I think i know where u get this idea from...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt View Post
    I think i know where u get this idea from...

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    what kind of effect am i looking with this lighting setup?


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    Quote Originally Posted by flipfreak View Post
    what kind of effect am i looking with this lighting setup?

    simple, see how powerful your camera @ iso50 & f64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt View Post
    simple, see how powerful your camera @ iso50 & f64
    what if my lens cannot stop down to f/64?

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    Lousy lens.

    Pass to me I get rid of it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipfreak View Post
    what kind of effect am i looking with this lighting setup?

    Seven-Teen Brolly Orgieee!

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    total seventeen lights.

    if one light output is f8

    the output of two lights is f11

    the output of four lights is f16

    the output of eight lights is f22

    the output of sixteen lights is f32

    so you still can shoot, but you need to custom make a lens shade very very very deep. else you will get a very very very bad lens flare.

    and think you only can take one or two shots, your model will go nuts if you shoot like nobody business.

    the effect will be like what we usually see how alien show up in a movie, everything seem to be overexposed.

    hope this help.
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    Flip's camera is stuck at ISO 6400!

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    Like that the model will be blind....
    Good for catching bullet...haha

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    You can catch the bullet but you be blind after tht

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