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    hope that someone can give me some helps.

    there are instances when i wan to take photos for staged events eg. dances, acts, plays etc. , where flashed photography is prohibited. and normally this events in held in a hall where there is no or little lights present. in that case, how do i possible take any photos without using the flash???

    even with aperture 1/4.5 may not help. setting the shutter speed to as slow a 1/2 or slower is out of question if i wan to take an instant moment.


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    use faster film or higher ISO (e.g. ISO 800, 1600) (or ask to turn on the lights!!! )? there're also faster lenses out there that you could get, e.g. f/1.4, f/1.8 that give you a faster shutter speed. else, try to get support (e.g. monopod or tripod) and hope the actors, dancers don't move too much for the shutter speed to freeze them.

    if the above list can't help, just sit back and enjoy the show.
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    You can

    1. Use higher ISO films ie ISO800, 1600, 3200
    2. Use faster lenses ie F1.8, 2.8
    3. Use tripod and hope that the shutter is fast enough to capture the moment.

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    Cable release or remote control also helps to prevent camera shake that can be caused by pressing shutter when camera is mounted on tripod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut
    hope that someone can give me some helps.

    there are instances when i wan to take photos for staged events eg. dances, acts, plays etc. , where flashed photography is prohibited. and normally this events in held in a hall where there is no or little lights present. in that case, how do i possible take any photos without using the flash???

    even with aperture 1/4.5 may not help. setting the shutter speed to as slow a 1/2 or slower is out of question if i wan to take an instant moment.

    my karate club's tournament pics taken with ISO1600 F1.8

    lighting is very bad but managed to freeze the action

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweakmax
    my karate club's tournament pics taken with ISO1600 F1.8
    lighting is very bad but managed to freeze the action

    http://www.pbase.com/laoda/sg_selection

    using film or digital?

    cos if use digital... at ISO1600 will you get noise??

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuRfTeC
    using film or digital?

    cos if use digital... at ISO1600 will you get noise??
    It'll depend on what kind of digital you talking abt here. As far as I'm concern, DSLR and consumer level Digital Camera high ISO are very different due to the CCD/CMOS size.

    Anyway, the treadstarter state SLR which I believe is refering ti the film based body.

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    Actually, film also has noise....
    It depends on how large you wanna print, which affects how visible the noise is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zplus
    Actually, film also has noise....
    It depends on how large you wanna print, which affects how visible the noise is...
    Noise on film?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zplus
    Actually, film also has noise....
    It depends on how large you wanna print, which affects how visible the noise is...
    Excuse mi....


    It not known as noise
    That film grain we are talking abt. PLS get that point straight!

    Anyway, sometimes a bit of grain in film esp b/w............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluestrike
    Excuse mi....


    It not known as noise
    That film grain we are talking abt. PLS get that point straight!

    Anyway, sometimes a bit of grain in film esp b/w............
    Well grain on B&W can be very nice if done properly...

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    The cheapest f1.x lenses are the 50mm ones. Prices go up very fast on the wide and long end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ST1100
    The cheapest f1.x lenses are the 50mm ones. Prices go up very fast on the wide and long end.
    Yeah agreed with you.

    well the 85/1.8 is another good one to have!

    Anyway, hope the tread starter read all this.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuRfTeC
    using film or digital?

    cos if use digital... at ISO1600 will you get noise??
    digital

    noise is very minimal on the s2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluestrike
    Yeah agreed with you.

    well the 85/1.8 is another good one to have!

    Anyway, hope the tread starter read all this.....

    ya..haha...of course reading..

    just that currently i dun have the budget to get the necessary stuff... eg lens..cable release etc.

    dun really like to take photos for these events...but just got to cover some plays for my committees.

    thanks for all the replies and hope that there are more to come...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpenza
    use faster film or higher ISO (e.g. ISO 800, 1600) (or ask to turn on the lights!!! )? there're also faster lenses out there that you could get, e.g. f/1.4, f/1.8 that give you a faster shutter speed. else, try to get support (e.g. monopod or tripod) and hope the actors, dancers don't move too much for the shutter speed to freeze them.

    if the above list can't help, just sit back and enjoy the show.
    hahaha.........buay tah han you....

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    just shot my schoolboys' musical for the last 3 days - was using settings varying from -
    ISO 400, f/1.8, 1/100s,
    ISO 400, f2.8, 1/80s,
    ISO 400, f/3.5-4.5, 1/30-1/40s,
    ISO 800, f/1.8, 1/30s (UV Scene, so have to increase massively)

    of course there were announcements of flash photography not being allowed.

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    Instead of getting fast films and fast lenses, why not just cut down the distance between you and the stage? One con of this suggestion is that you'll be unable to capture the whole stage at one go, but usually depends on what you're looking for.

    Otherwise, get a wide-angle lens to shoot the whole stage and a moderate telephoto zoom to capture close-ups. I would personally recommend at least ISO 800. I would rather trade off grains for speed (given committees usually don't expect anything larger than 4R).

    I guess more importantly, it's good to know the flow of the performance, expecting who will come on stage at where at when so that you can point your zoom at the correct place. May want to try manual focus as the dim lighting may throw the AF off.

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