First Few Images from my DP2

[t0tor0]

Yes! I got mine and managed to experiment a little with it today.

Hehe...

[NikonShooter]

The colors look muted and pics are slightly underexposed. What settings are you using?

[spheredome]

Shoot with raw and more light more light for foveon.

DP2 can do 3x better than that.

[t0tor0]

i shoot raw and adjusted with Photo Pro 3.3. cannot adjust the exact color temperature one wor. only preset like sunlight, cloudy, etc...

hmm... maybe i don't like too saturated colors so my pictures like dat. but u guys got a point about light. i noticed the the sensor can accommodate more light. like for the fallen flowers shot, i guess usually ppl would do a -0.3EV or -0.7EV to preserve the whites. i did a check on the histogram before shooting and it can accommodate almost another +1EV i think! i only did a +0.3. or is it the meter is underexposing or is it wide dynamic range? need to bring a spot meter along to check lor. hehe...

but then the texture of the petals didn't come out as much as i would like.

anyway, need to learn how to maximize this cam potential. anyone else tried on their DP2 already? do share pls.

[King Kong]

Dpreview just posted some preview photos using DP2... check it out!

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0905/09...dp2preview.asp

[tomcat]

Has stock arrived already?
How much and where?

[King Kong]

I was told that the stock will be in by 16 May in Shops. Price will be S$1,080...

[obfuscate]

Is the price before or after GST?

[Daedalus Trent]

no offense, but the shots look something any old $400+ PnS is capable off

[tomcat]

Originally Posted by King Kong I was told that the stock will be in by 16 May in Shops. Price will be S$1,080...

Just received a call from my dealer to collect the camera. Seems that stock has already arrived in Singapore... ahead of original scheduled date.

[jasbay]

Originally Posted by Daedalus Trent no offense, but the shots look something any old $400+ PnS is capable off

borrow one to take a pic and compare with the best shot from your gear listed in your signature. it will blow you away.

[spheredome]

The strong point of foveon is the ability to enhance the dark area (thru X3 fill) or shadow yet retain a certain degree of color unlike bayers. However new user will need to learn and acknowledge that foveon requirement for more light, else the dark noise will appear or the pic will appear dull even with enhance saturation.

Sigma camera are best used for scenes where color is primary gain, else no point using one and stick with bayer will be easier.

The difference between DP1, DP2 and D90 IQ is minimal, each has it qualities. For instance, foveon till today still cannot achieve iso800 with losing color while D90 maintains. On the other hand, it takes little effort to highlight the dark area and clouds on Sigma camera on low iso.

Even the use of polarizing filter on Sigma camera will affect it ability to reproduce color during enhancement. These needs to be learned.

[Daedalus Trent]

Originally Posted by jasbay borrow one to take a pic and compare with the best shot from your gear listed in your signature. it will blow you away.

uhh...you really think the equipment a photographer uses is going to impact his/her photography style?


But hey, believe in what you want to believe in

[tomcat]

Originally Posted by Daedalus Trent uhh...you really think the equipment a photographer uses is going to impact his/her photography style? But hey, believe in what you want to believe in

I don't think that jasbay meant that getting a different photographic equipment would automatically turn a novice snapshooter into a professional photographer or that it would automatically change whatever style a photographer have or have not developed over the years without any effort whatsoever on his part.

If one can't even compose a photo esthetically, it really doesn't matter whether he is using disposable camera or a Nikon D3x. In fact he might have a harder time getting a better image of the same scene with a more complicated camera which is designed to let the user carry out most of the post-processing work himself than with a P&S camera in Auto or Program mode which makes all the decisions for the user.

What jasbay meant was probably that you should shoot the same scene with both cameras and compare the image quality of the photos taken.

As others have mentioned the foveon sensor is not perfect. I would even deem it to be a 'difficult' and fussy sensor to use. It has many shortcomings compared to other Bayer sensors but per-pixel sharpness and amount of details captured under good lighting conditions are not some of them.

Foveon cameras like the SD14 and DP1 also do not like to be used in jpeg mode and must be used in RAW mode to get the best out of them. Users (like me) who shoot in RAW and who place higher emphasis on sharpness and details might be more forgiving of their faults and sing their praises inspite of them. Otherwise, they are not really for ordinary snapshooters who do not want to do any post-processing work of any kind.

I have carried out comparisons between my DP1 and E3 earlier on and was pleasantly surprised by the image quality coming out of the DP1 under optimal lighting conditions. This is all the more amazing when that kind of image quality is coming out of a camera body that is that small.
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372416

Hopefully, the DP2 is an improvement over the DP1 is so far as the jpeg processing engine is concerned as well as in other areas of concern.

[Daedalus Trent]

Originally Posted by tomcat I don't think that jasbay meant that getting a different photographic equipment would automatically turn a novice snapshooter into a professional photographer or that it would automatically change whatever style a photographer have or have not developed over the years without any effort whatsoever on his part. If one can't even compose a photo esthetically, it really doesn't matter whether he is using disposable camera or a Nikon D3x. In fact he might have a harder time getting a better image of the same scene with a more complicated camera which is designed to let the user carry out most of the post-processing work himself than with a P&S camera in Auto or Program mode which makes all the decisions for the user. What jasbay meant was probably that you should shoot the same scene with both cameras and compare the image quality of the photos taken. As others have mentioned the foveon sensor is not perfect. I would even deem it to be a 'difficult' and fussy sensor to use. It has many shortcomings compared to other Bayer sensors but per-pixel sharpness and amount of details captured under good lighting conditions are not some of them. Foveon cameras like the SD14 and DP1 also do not like to be used in jpeg mode and must be used in RAW mode to get the best out of them. Users (like me) who shoot in RAW and who place higher emphasis on sharpness and details might be more forgiving of their faults and sing their praises inspite of them. Otherwise, they are not really for ordinary snapshooters who do not want to do any post-processing work of any kind. I have carried out comparisons between my DP1 and E3 earlier on and was pleasantly surprised by the image quality coming out of the DP1 under optimal lighting conditions. This is all the more amazing when that kind of image quality is coming out of a camera body that is that small. http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372416 Hopefully, the DP2 is an improvement over the DP1 is so far as the jpeg processing engine is concerned as well as in other areas of concern.

Don't know what he meant but thanks for clarifying anyway

Learnt some stuff too since i only shoot in JPEG

[spheredome]

I am not a good photographer but I like to take parks photos with the maximum detail of what my eyes see on that day for memory. Foveon fits me well because I can enhance every area branch, corners with the SPP sigma offered.

[photatographer]

The details look spectacular! These are things you can only get when you allocate 3 photosites to 1 pixel

[cichlid]

Wow...spheredome...can you do a side by side comparision with another camera on the same subject?

[spheredome]

Originally Posted by cichlid Wow...spheredome...can you do a side by side comparision with another camera on the same subject?

Unfortunately, I don't have any side by side comparison as I always take pics for my viewing purpose. You have to climb the Fort Canning park yourself to see it. But I did bring along 2 cameras (Canon dSLR and Sigma SD14) along my kusu island trip not long ago. I must clarify that I do not take photo with great expectation like others, just mere P mode and multi-point meter and click. Then post process, can see means ok for me.

Based on what I have been using (includes past dSLRs and compacts), the dark shadow is what I expected of bayers during a bright sunny day. The later photo was taken with Sigma.
For the canon, no matter how much I post enhance the shadow in DPP, I cannot get the dark area to reveal. Sigma will appear dark gray rather than black initially but can up the contrast with SPP by a single slider.

[tomcat]

Originally Posted by obfuscate Is the price before or after GST?

Just collected mine. $1,080 before GST. Plus a 4G card as a bonus. Sigma Singapore does not give any memory card with this camera.