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    Recently saw an article in the Sunday Times.

    I think schools used pictures of students on banners hang on the perimeter fence to do some publicity.

    Is there a need for the school to ask permission for the pic on the banner?

    What is the legal implication?

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    ask what/whose permission? students need to sign model release for their photos to be used on school banners?

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    last time also dunno wats model release... nowadays ppl model release for even on school banners... next time do school annual also need model release for snapshots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Del_CtrlnoAlt View Post
    last time also dunno wats model release... nowadays ppl model release for even on school banners... next time do school annual also need model release for snapshots?
    next time school yearbook..each student has to sign model release before class photos can be put in..

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    No permission required because Singapore has yet to recognise the requirement for model releases, whether by judicial recognition, or by legislative creation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    Recently saw an article in the Sunday Times.

    I think schools used pictures of students on banners hang on the perimeter fence to do some publicity.

    Is there a need for the school to ask permission for the pic on the banner?

    What is the legal implication?

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    there was a case by a model, i think it was hanis
    some body used her image and did an ad
    i think she won

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    The Hanis Hussey case was based on existing causes of action, namely defamation and copyright infringement (the ad agency and photographer assigned all rights to her), and not on model releases.

    Here's the case citation if anyone wishes to read up further on it

    Hanis Saini Hussey v Integrated Information Pte Ltd (Lim Soo Boon t/a Tiffany Promotions, Third Party) - [1998] SGHC 219


    Quote Originally Posted by ortega View Post
    there was a case by a model, i think it was hanis
    some body used her image and did an ad
    i think she won
    Last edited by vince123123; 5th May 2009 at 06:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by +evenstar View Post
    ask what/whose permission? students need to sign model release for their photos to be used on school banners?
    Yes do school needs to seek permissiion for their pic to be released?

    1. The pic were taken by the school assigned photographer
    2. The pic were taken within the school compound
    3. The students were in school uniform
    .....

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    I dont' think any of these factors are relevant when assessing whether a model release is required. Compelling moral reasons though not necessarily legal factors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    Yes do school needs to seek permissiion for their pic to be released?

    1. The pic were taken by the school assigned photographer
    2. The pic were taken within the school compound
    3. The students were in school uniform
    .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    I dont' think any of these factors are relevant when assessing whether a model release is required. Compelling moral reasons though not necessarily legal factors.
    Thank you for the input.

    appreciate all the feedbacks...

    Thanks again

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    Then if in the case for example, the Newpaper Big Walk or what ever event that is open to public. You are not the official photographer, but you taken a photo of a person during that event, which you feel the expression and composition is an award winning piece. So can you still use this photo for contest? How to get "model" release (if required) when you don't even know who and where this person stay?
    If the photo get published by the contest organiser. will the photographer or the organiser get into trouble if the person in the photo came shouting at the contest organiser to demand for some money (or whatever) for usage of "his face" in the photos?
    I know there is nothing wrong to take photo of any person in public, but using these photos for contest, webs publish, or even post in CS for comments and sharing.... anything legally wrong with that?

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    Maybe you can ask this question on a US photo forum since SG laws do not recognise model releases and since US does, you will get better answers there

    In Singapore, I doubt there's anything wrong for the things you stated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cursor View Post
    Then if in the case for example, the Newpaper Big Walk or what ever event that is open to public. You are not the official photographer, but you taken a photo of a person during that event, which you feel the expression and composition is an award winning piece. So can you still use this photo for contest? How to get "model" release (if required) when you don't even know who and where this person stay?
    If the photo get published by the contest organiser. will the photographer or the organiser get into trouble if the person in the photo came shouting at the contest organiser to demand for some money (or whatever) for usage of "his face" in the photos?
    I know there is nothing wrong to take photo of any person in public, but using these photos for contest, webs publish, or even post in CS for comments and sharing.... anything legally wrong with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    Maybe you can ask this question on a US photo forum since SG laws do not recognise model releases and since US does, you will get better answers there

    In Singapore, I doubt there's anything wrong for the things you stated.
    my friend actually warn me from taking pictures of stranger to submit for photo competition. He said i might be sued but the person in the photo and this was stated in the law! But i can't find anything abt this law here.

    am i right to say, if the photo competition stated model release in T&C, we hv to follow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123 View Post
    Maybe you can ask this question on a US photo forum since SG laws do not recognise model releases and since US does, you will get better answers there

    In Singapore, I doubt there's anything wrong for the things you stated.
    Cool, thanks for the reply.
    At least I don't need to have 2nd thoughts when submitting photos..... haa haa

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    As with the case with most photographers in CS , they surf the web to try to find answers. And the web ianswers they find usualyl relates to US websites or US books or US forums; and hence the advice they go away with is hte US position; which is probably not applicable in Singapore. Laws differe significantly from jurisdiction to jurisdictino, and even in the US, each state has its own set of laws.

    Until within the last few years where I tried very hard to educate people on model releases, everyone thought they are required in Singapore. I was the only person who said the world was round when everyone thought it was flat...but over time it appears that there is a slow, but surely changing view.

    For the last question, well yes, you have to comply just so as to follow their T&Cs. Its like they say "please submit in 8R" or "please attach JPG, no TIFs, PSDs" etc, - it is just an internal requirement.

    Quote Originally Posted by cheerful88 View Post
    my friend actually warn me from taking pictures of stranger to submit for photo competition. He said i might be sued but the person in the photo and this was stated in the law! But i can't find anything abt this law here.

    am i right to say, if the photo competition stated model release in T&C, we hv to follow?

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    Hi vince123123

    thanks for the reply

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    You're welcome, hope that it is helpful and useful to you, as well as to others reading this forum

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