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Old 1st May 2009   #1
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Default Possible to get 2nd hand 20d nowadays?

so basically i want to start using DSLR. So its either 350d or 20d, though i'm more inclined towards 20d. is it possible to find a 2nd hand 20d anywhere? hope people would nt suggest me going for 1000d, 450d, 30d or 400d because its over my budget. around how much would a second hand 20d cost me? thanks guys.
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so basically i want to start using DSLR. So its either 350d or 20d, though i'm more inclined towards 20d. is it possible to find a 2nd hand 20d anywhere? hope people would nt suggest me going for 1000d, 450d, 30d or 400d because its over my budget. around how much would a second hand 20d cost me? thanks guys.
u can try to search the buy n sell section here... or go pensisular area walk walk... but trust me, unless u can get a 20D for free... spending 400-450 is just not worth it... cos the battery after close to 5 yrs u need to replace.. a new one will easily set u back by 70-80 le... then it most likely wnt come with a lens... add another 150 to the equation... u will be better off with a new cam... just save more and wait... my personal pt of view... cheers...
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so basically i want to start using DSLR. So its either 350d or 20d, though i'm more inclined towards 20d. is it possible to find a 2nd hand 20d anywhere? hope people would nt suggest me going for 1000d, 450d, 30d or 400d because its over my budget. around how much would a second hand 20d cost me? thanks guys.
What is your budget (body only)? You don't seem to know the going price for the 2nd hand market so how do you know 1000d, 450d, 30d or 400d is over your budget?
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i do know the 2nd hand price of 1000d,350d, 400d and 450d except for 30d. i rarely see 20d circulating around in B/S section. so ya thats why i asked. anyway thnx illusion for ur advice!
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I have a 20D with BG-E2 that I don't mind selling, it has served me well and deserves an owner who can make more use of it. Been sitting in my dry-cabi since I upgraded to 1 series and 5d2

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u can try to search the buy n sell section here... or go pensisular area walk walk... but trust me, unless u can get a 20D for free... spending 400-450 is just not worth it... cos the battery after close to 5 yrs u need to replace.. a new one will easily set u back by 70-80 le... then it most likely wnt come with a lens... add another 150 to the equation... u will be better off with a new cam... just save more and wait... my personal pt of view... cheers...
aiyo...i still shoot with a 20d for weddings after all these years. Cos started out using this camera, so very used to it's behavior. Wanting to upgrade and so have used 350d, 450d, 40d, 5D and even 1D2 as a backup camera ( for those in between moments). Even briefly tried nikon and Sony and, i can tell u, the 20d is still my fav....

it's really a definitive camera, one that i say propel canon's lead back then ( albeit they losing it now) It's comming to 5 years old, of cse it lose out to the 40D, but it can still hold it's own against a 450D despite the 4 MB difference and if u read reviews of sony A700 for example, a camera that is 3-4 years older, they compare the AF speed of A700 to 20D.....

It's cheap...400 dollars on BnS. Cos it's a older XX series, it's well built ( somehow the newer XX series a bit flimsy like tat) and can maybe last u 3-4 years?

So why bother with a newer camera?
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2nd hand 20D body at Pensisular area is about $450. Some people have very strong opinion about 2nd hand 20D, but it is all up to you and your budget. A OEM battery is only $30-$40, and my current 20D battery is still good as new, it still can last 1000+ per charge.

Currently, I am a 20D and 350D user, to take a good picture start from the person behind the camera. Save some money for the Canon L lens or prime lens, it give you much better picture quality. I found that I no longer using other Sigma lens and other canon lens due to the picture quality issue.

Below are some of the photo taken by using 20D posted at ClubSNAP:

http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=490122
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=418044
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=483653
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470030
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=469147

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Originally Posted by cosycatus View Post
aiyo...i still shoot with a 20d for weddings after all these years. Cos started out using this camera, so very used to it's behavior. Wanting to upgrade and so have used 350d, 450d, 40d, 5D and even 1D2 as a backup camera ( for those in between moments). Even briefly tried nikon and Sony and, i can tell u, the 20d is still my fav....
Agree with your assessment of 20D....there is just something about the look of the sensor that is very appealing....8.2 MP seems to be the sweet spot for the APS-C size sensor. I have used both 20D and 40D and I can safely say that the noise control on the 20D is noticeably better at iso speeds up to 800.

If you can source for a good condition 2nd hand set at a good price, go for it.

A sample pic I shot with this amazing camera (very light cropping done):

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I just got a 20D as well, can't comment too much on it as I am totally under-using it.

Anyway, while I was hunting for 20D, I thought battery would be a problem so I looked through ebay. Battery Link. I did not buy it in the end as my battery seems to be working pretty good. Just a suggestion. =)
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u can try to search the buy n sell section here... or go pensisular area walk walk... but trust me, unless u can get a 20D for free... spending 400-450 is just not worth it... cos the battery after close to 5 yrs u need to replace.. a new one will easily set u back by 70-80 le... then it most likely wnt come with a lens... add another 150 to the equation... u will be better off with a new cam... just save more and wait... my personal pt of view... cheers...
If I get a 20D for around $400, and I replace two batteries, each for $80, and I get a cheap lens for $150, how can that possibly even come close to even getting a new camera that has the same build quality as the 20D? Do the math, man.

$400 + $160 + $150 = $710

$710 will not get me a new 40D or 50D kit.
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Agree with calebk

20D great cam at today's used prices. 99% of people don't need 10,12,15MP at all. In fact, many pros did great weddings in the old days with the 1D at 4MP.

Only thing is you need to get used to the 1.8 inch LCD display, but again, in the days of film, LCD, what LCD?
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Default Re: Possible to get 2nd hand 20d nowadays?

hahaha

actually the question is "Possible to get 2nd hand 20d nowadays?"

Yes!! but seemingly lesser probability to get a good one since its an old model. Maybe Thread Starter can suggest your budget, or what's the alternative to 20D... 30D?

I wish to sell a Film Camera! Its quite difficult! haha

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I use a 20d and I think its great....fits my needs perfectly...its quite bang for the buck...got magnesium body somemore..rivals the d200 in my opinion...

plus..all u need is just to buy a new battery..(Around 25 bucks)..no need get 1st party..oh..and remember to massage the shutter button should the shutter get laggy..heheheh..some of you guys noe what i am talking about..


i actually switched from a brand new sony a200 to a model that was built in 2005...
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Originally Posted by ardnirun View Post
I use a 20d and I think its great....fits my needs perfectly...its quite bang for the buck...got magnesium body somemore..rivals the d200 in my opinion...

plus..all u need is just to buy a new battery..(Around 25 bucks)..no need get 1st party..oh..and remember to massage the shutter button should the shutter get laggy..heheheh..some of you guys noe what i am talking about..


i actually switched from a brand new sony a200 to a model that was built in 2005...

Totoally agreed 20D fits my need perfectly, I am a 20D user here.

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used to use 20D, and it is oldies bt goodies !!!

i used to play around with 20D, 30D and 40D. there are things that you won't get in 20D like high fps, live view (which really comes handy sometimes) as compared to 40D. nevertheless, 20D is still a great camera, i think better than 30D in my opinion but can't match 40D in those things above.

well, 40D i believe has better and faster auto focus (i called this 1D junior). regardless of megapixels (which i don't think you will need for now). 20D is seriously damn good !

there are 3rd party battery which cost 1/5 of the original one. so let say, original battery can last you 3 years, while 3rd party can last you 6 months plus. i think it is still worth it to get 3rd party battery in my opinion.

the only thing you have to be careful is shutter count. older camera usually (usually and not confirmed) has high shutter count. up till now, i have no idea on how to check sc in 20D (unlike 40D which i can use some plug in). try to listen to the shutter mechanical, if it doesn't give you those weird and harsh sound, then it should be fine.

well, shuterr is still shutter. there are camera which are still going strong even at 90K plus and the other way around.

so, if you able to get the piece at good condition and price. just grab it and you won't regret it ! =)
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ahhh love ur replies. LOL. yeah actually what i love abt 20d is the focus pts. erm hougangman i sent u a pm.
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Originally Posted by calebk View Post
If I get a 20D for around $400, and I replace two batteries, each for $80, and I get a cheap lens for $150, how can that possibly even come close to even getting a new camera that has the same build quality as the 20D? Do the math, man.

$400 + $160 + $150 = $710

$710 will not get me a new 40D or 50D kit.
hi hi.. me tot u said not to go off topic in threads... why r u teaching me math huh... LOL...
the above is my personal point of view.. stated clearly... i also told him to save more to get something new... also stated clearly is my personal pt of view.. i never said wat i mentioned can get a new cam.. i simply think personally tat it is not worth it...
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Originally Posted by cosycatus View Post
aiyo...i still shoot with a 20d for weddings after all these years. Cos started out using this camera, so very used to it's behavior. Wanting to upgrade and so have used 350d, 450d, 40d, 5D and even 1D2 as a backup camera ( for those in between moments). Even briefly tried nikon and Sony and, i can tell u, the 20d is still my fav....

it's really a definitive camera, one that i say propel canon's lead back then ( albeit they losing it now) It's comming to 5 years old, of cse it lose out to the 40D, but it can still hold it's own against a 450D despite the 4 MB difference and if u read reviews of sony A700 for example, a camera that is 3-4 years older, they compare the AF speed of A700 to 20D.....

It's cheap...400 dollars on BnS. Cos it's a older XX series, it's well built ( somehow the newer XX series a bit flimsy like tat) and can maybe last u 3-4 years?

So why bother with a newer camera?
starting with it from new i still think it is different from getting it from used... btw, i am using a 10D... so i agreed that if we have a older body, we dnt need to get a new one unless the old one is damage.. but starting with a old one considering the age and the amt need to pay i personally think tat it is really not justifiable lor...
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Originally Posted by Russ View Post
Agree with calebk

20D great cam at today's used prices. 99% of people don't need 10,12,15MP at all. In fact, many pros did great weddings in the old days with the 1D at 4MP.

Only thing is you need to get used to the 1.8 inch LCD display, but again, in the days of film, LCD, what LCD?
hi hi, can a 20D fit a EF-S lens...
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Yes you can. Crop body that can't mount EFS is 10D IIRC
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