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Old 8th November 2003   #1
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Default Pls advise e grainess ...

hi guys ... i scanned my BW neg and here's the result ... actually i'm quite shock with grains ... i'm not sure whether it's is consider normal for tat kinda film n developer that i'm using.

I've created a temp Online album .... pls let me know is everything "normal" under Full view ?? or it is too far grainy ...

Note: I did not crop or resize any photos, as i only want to know the acceptable of grainess rather than the composition of the photos.

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film:Tri-X 400
developer: Iford Ifosol S
Time: 10 mins (as instructed) @ 20 C

Note: Temp tends to increase throughout my developing period ...

Thanks ....
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Old 9th November 2003   #2
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They look alright to me.
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Yeah.. what's wrong?
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Old 9th November 2003   #4
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oh ..... nothing nothing .... as i said ... it's my 1st time ... so dunno whether the level of grainess of the photos are "normal" or not ... tat's y i neeed to ask u all


eh ... thanks guy ...
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Scanned b&w film will look more grainy than it actually is. It is also a iso 400 film developed in ilfosol s, so grain could be more obvious as the developer was meant more for slower film. But your scans look quite ok to me. If you print it the traditional b&w darkroom method, the grains should be quite alright.
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Old 9th November 2003   #6
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Originally Posted by Gunjack
Scanned b&w film will look more grainy than it actually is. It is also a iso 400 film developed in ilfosol s, so grain could be more obvious as the developer was meant more for slower film. But your scans look quite ok to me. If you print it the traditional b&w darkroom method, the grains should be quite alright.
hmm ... so u mean tat iford ifosol s is meant for slower film ... but how to tell whether a developer is meant for either higher or slower film? i couldnt find any on iford's site ...
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Old 9th November 2003   #7
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Check this out...

http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/pdf/ilfotecd.pdf
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Old 9th November 2003   #8
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Originally Posted by Gunjack
Check this out...

http://www.ilford.com/html/us_english/pdf/ilfotecd.pdf
hey thanks alot ~
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You may want to try pouring in the chemicals at 18 degrees. dont invert, but swirl the tank for 10 seconds every minutes.
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Originally Posted by vader
You may want to try pouring in the chemicals at 18 degrees. dont invert, but swirl the tank for 10 seconds every minutes.
if i place the tank into a small pail with ice water, does it maintain the temp? will it works ?
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actually, i will add ice until the temp becomes 18 degrees. ok, say your tank is 600ml, i will mix the chem and water until 520ml, then add ice to make it until 600ml.

why 18 degrees?? when you pour in the chem at 20 degrees, it will rise until approx 23 degrees in a short while due to the chem reaction. as you are unable to keep the temp constantly at 20 degrees throughout the dev time, it'll be a better way. try before you pour the film dev away and pour the fixer, test the temp to see how much it goes up at the end of the dev time.(just for your own info lah)

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okkk ... thanks .. noted!
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