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    The National Press Photographers Association features a story on a Danish photojournalist who was disqualified from his country's version of a picture-of-the-year contest for manipulating an image. More of the images can be viewed on this site.

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    Default Re: Rob Galbraith: Photoshopped images disquailified

    This is getting out of hand.

    Shall we have a section for shots without manipulation? This will encourage our photographers to produce works that are original, untouched, based on their creativity and skills, and not based on Photoshop skills and manipulation.
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    Might be difficult. Does smoothing model skin consider manipulation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao_shin View Post
    Might be difficult. Does smoothing model skin consider manipulation?
    Of course. You use Photoshop right?
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    How feasible is a non-Photoshopped only requirement? It is now such an integral part of the workflow. Especially in correcting digital inherent issues such as dust spots and color casts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgo View Post
    This is getting out of hand.

    Shall we have a section for shots without manipulation? This will encourage our photographers to produce works that are original, untouched, based on their creativity and skills, and not based on Photoshop skills and manipulation.
    like i always say,

    if the image is nonsense in the first place, give it to any photoshop god, he will produce nonsense also.

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    Default Re: Rob Galbraith: Photoshopped images disquailified

    You sure or not?



    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    like i always say,

    if the image is nonsense in the first place, give it to any photoshop god, he will produce nonsense also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao_shin View Post
    Might be difficult. Does smoothing model skin consider manipulation?
    You may post-process the images electronically in accordance with good practice. That is cropping, burning, dodging, converting to black and white as well as normal exposure and color correction, which preserves the image's original expression.
    guess anything more is consider manipulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    like i always say,

    if the image is nonsense in the first place, give it to any photoshop god, he will produce nonsense also.
    this i dont really agree. photoshop artist can crop the part they want and edit the background and subject giving it a different look all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgo View Post
    You sure or not?

    you got see how badly liquify affects images or not, if not , go and try yourself.

    come out the image will not be suitable for anything other than small small small print.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juelix View Post
    this i dont really agree. photoshop artist can crop the part they want and edit the background and subject giving it a different look all together.
    then it doesn't matter, that is photoshop collage, not a photograph, and there is no competition currently that i know of that allows this without it being in a specific section for such artistic expression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    you got see how badly liquify affects images or not, if not , go and try yourself.

    come out the image will not be suitable for anything other than small small small print.
    Who cares, as long as a manipulated photo looks nice, you don't care right?

    Anyway, we're not talking about prints here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    then it doesn't matter, that is photoshop collage, not a photograph, and there is no competition currently that i know of that allows this without it being in a specific section for such artistic expression.
    ya, it's consider a photoshop artwork and not a photograph.

    just replying to your statement of "if the image is nonsense in the first place, give it to any photoshop god, he will produce nonsense also."

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    Default Re: Rob Galbraith: Photoshopped images disquailified

    Aren't we on this topic?

    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    then it doesn't matter, that is photoshop collage, not a photograph, and there is no competition currently that i know of that allows this without it being in a specific section for such artistic expression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgo View Post
    Who cares, as long as a manipulated photo looks nice, you don't care right?

    Anyway, we're not talking about prints here.
    i don't know, i don't agree with that guy's works either, it reeks of radioactiveness that i always speak up against here.

    like i always say, surrealism is alright, but it should still be grounded in reality, and only for certain things, like landscapes is more resililent to "surrealism" than portraits, etc.

    of course, only the end result matters, but for certain genres, especially journalism, then manipulation until it is not even close to what the eye sees, then i cannot agree.

    it is really not fair to make a sweeping statement that "out of camera images" are pure expression of creativity alone. what then of vision? what then of limited dynamic range to be captured by the camera's sensor? there are many things that cannot be achieved out-of-camera, are we going to say that they are less in terms of any merit just because they needed further massaging in photoshop?

    that is merely the point i wanted to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgo View Post
    Who cares, as long as a manipulated photo looks nice, you don't care right?

    Anyway, we're not talking about prints here.
    that will depend what the picture is for. if it's for a photography competition then i dont agree that you should edit anything at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgo View Post
    Aren't we on this topic?
    he got dq'ed what..

    aiya, web size only, where got zhun, blurry image also can look sharp if you do it properly and resize it enough..

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    Quote Originally Posted by juelix View Post
    that will depend what the picture is for. if it's for a photography competition then i dont agree that you should edit anything at all.
    so you are certain that your dslr produces what your eye sees?

    this is an age old argument, even black and white is distortion of reality, even burn and dodge in dark room is not straight out of camera..

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    It's just a suggestion to create a section for non-manipulated images to be shared here, so that we can see for ourselves how good/bad our photography skills are. I doubt a lot of us here will be able to take splendid shots (myself included) out of the camera.

    Quote Originally Posted by night86mare View Post
    i don't know, i don't agree with that guy's works either, it reeks of radioactiveness that i always speak up against here.

    like i always say, surrealism is alright, but it should still be grounded in reality, and only for certain things, like landscapes is more resililent to "surrealism" than portraits, etc.

    of course, only the end result matters, but for certain genres, especially journalism, then manipulation until it is not even close to what the eye sees, then i cannot agree.

    it is really not fair to make a sweeping statement that "out of camera images" are pure expression of creativity alone. what then of vision? what then of limited dynamic range to be captured by the camera's sensor? there are many things that cannot be achieved out-of-camera, are we going to say that they are less in terms of any merit just because they needed further massaging in photoshop?

    that is merely the point i wanted to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virgo View Post
    It's just a suggestion to create a section for non-manipulated images to be shared here, so that we can see for ourselves how good/bad our photography skills are. I doubt a lot of us here will be able to take splendid shots (myself included) out of the camera.
    nah, i am just expressing my viewpoint.. i also don't mind, just stating my take on it.

    forum is for sharing of viewpoint, got more section also ok, after all, sometimes pictures really can just post out of camera, but not always one has the correct type of light, lighting, then have to use other methods to put forth the vision due to various limitations, i.e. time, circumstance, vision.

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