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    Question 18 - 55mm lens for indoor shoot

    Hi all, would like to know if this Nikon kit lens is suitable for doing simple indoor shoots.
    Basically just shooting a house-warming event (people).

    But i worry about not being able to achieve good DOF with this lens. Will this be a prob?
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    Before you think about DOF, your should be more worried about having enough light. I'd think about using a cheap SB400 or bounce card or diffuser for the pop-up flash instead.

    You already have a 18-105, why bother with an 18-55?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaikibbler View Post
    Before you think about DOF, your should be more worried about having enough light. I'd think about using a cheap SB400 or bounce card or diffuser for the pop-up flash instead.

    You already have a 18-105, why bother with an 18-55?
    18-55 more suitable for portraits i heard?
    i dunno... nv done indoor events before..

    i dun intend to use flash unless necc... coz there will be babies ard.
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    Default Re: 18 - 55mm lens for indoor shoot

    you would still be able to achieve decent bokeh effects depending on the distance between your subject and background etc. of course you wouldn't get as or distinct bokehs as wide aperture lenses.

    but yes as mentioned, your biggest worry with indoor shoots should be light. your 18-55 aperture may not be good enough without a flash.

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    In that case, 35mm f/1.8 DX can get the job done. And cheaply.

    In layman's terms, 18-105 is 18-55 + another 50mm of zoom. In other words 18-105 can do everything the 18-55 can do and more. 18-105 at 55mm also has slightly wider max aperture than 18-55 (f/5 vs f/5.6). 18-105 may have more distortion though. You need to know the difference between lenses before blindly following advice. Buying an 18-55 when you already have the kit lens would be a waste of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyteocx View Post
    you would still be able to achieve decent bokeh effects depending on the distance between your subject and background etc. of course you wouldn't get as or distinct bokehs as wide aperture lenses.

    but yes as mentioned, your biggest worry with indoor shoots should be light. your 18-55 aperture may not be good enough without a flash.

    hmm..
    DOF-wise, a 'shorter' lens is better achieved than those that are longer? (that's the impression i have after reading up articles, and where i do not have the $$ for a 'faster' lens like f2.8) Meaning 18-55 (short) VS 18-105 (long)

    Lighting-wise, even though the 18-55 may not be the best to work with, but would the 18-55 perform better than the 18-105 for indoors?

    Sorry for the questions but personally, I've not tested out the 18-55 yet, coz only collecting it from fren later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaikibbler View Post
    In that case, 35mm f/1.8 DX can get the job done.

    hahaha... a 'fast' lens is the ultimate dream, but not getting it at the moment.
    I'm pretty fine with my kit lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pooQy View Post
    18-55 more suitable for portraits i heard?
    i dunno... nv done indoor events before..

    i dun intend to use flash unless necc... coz there will be babies ard.
    since no intention of using one, the most straight forwrd thing to do is to pump up the ISO then. we all had a 1st for everything. most impt is to have fun too yea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pooQy View Post
    Lighting-wise, even though the 18-55 may not be the best to work with, but would the 18-55 perform better than the 18-105 for indoors?
    no it would not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shunzi View Post
    since no intention of using one, the most straight forwrd thing to do is to pump up the ISO then. we all had a 1st for everything. most impt is to have fun too yea.
    I have a self made bounce card, but the bounced light effect not very consistent...
    Almost gave up using it during my testing shoot. :P

    yeah... ISO IS the other alternative, but of course with the price of noisy pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pooQy View Post
    Lighting-wise, even though the 18-55 may not be the best to work with, but would the 18-55 perform better than the 18-105 for indoors?
    If you are talking about relative aperture size difference, the 18-105mm at 55mm is marginally bigger than f5.6 at 55mm for the 18-55mm

    But i doubt apart from the longer reach u will get much improvement from that marginal difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaikibbler View Post
    In layman's terms, 18-105 is 18-55 + another 50mm of zoom. In other words 18-105 can do everything the 18-55 can do and more. 18-105 at 55mm also has slightly wider max aperture than 18-55 (f/5 vs f/5.6). 18-105 may have more distortion though. You need to know the difference between lenses before blindly following advice. Buying an 18-55 when you already have the kit lens would be a waste of money.

    Not buying... Borrowing the 15-55mm from fren. I think my kit lens is a great lens to start with... been doing ALL my shoots with it.

    It's juz that i dun wanna 'screw' up covering this event...
    Thus, i'm looking for alternative lens options that may perform better indoors. =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    no it would not.
    Quote Originally Posted by giantcanopy View Post
    If you are talking about relative aperture size difference, the 18-105mm at 55mm is marginally bigger than f5.6 at 55mm for the 18-55mm

    But i doubt apart from the longer reach u will get much improvement from that marginal difference.

    Ryan
    icic...
    Thanks for the input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pooQy View Post
    Not buying... Borrowing the 15-55mm from fren. I think my kit lens is a great lens to start with... been doing ALL my shoots with it.

    It's juz that i dun wanna 'screw' up covering this event...
    Thus, i'm looking for alternative lens options that may perform better indoors. =)
    Then you're looking in the wrong direction. A Tamron 17-50 may be better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Then you're looking in the wrong direction. A Tamron 17-50 may be better.
    haha... sadly, dun have frens ard me that owns that piece. Although my kaki and I are having intentions to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pooQy View Post
    haha... sadly, dun have frens ard me that owns that piece. Although my kaki and I are having intentions to...
    Rent it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pooQy View Post
    haha... sadly, dun have frens ard me that owns that piece. Although my kaki and I are having intentions to...
    I stand by my previous suggestion, 35mm f/1.8 DX. Either that or you go up to ISO1600~3200 and learn from your results. Either way enjoy and use this experience to determine what you need to shoot how you want to shoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pooQy View Post
    hmm..
    DOF-wise, a 'shorter' lens is better achieved than those that are longer? (that's the impression i have after reading up articles, and where i do not have the $$ for a 'faster' lens like f2.8) Meaning 18-55 (short) VS 18-105 (long)

    Lighting-wise, even though the 18-55 may not be the best to work with, but would the 18-55 perform better than the 18-105 for indoors?

    Sorry for the questions but personally, I've not tested out the 18-55 yet, coz only collecting it from fren later.
    depends on what DOF u mean. if you wan a shallow DOF (bokeh effect), then no a longer lens would be better than a shorter one. so lets say you're using your 18-55, your focal length at 55mm will give u the better boekh effect.

    lighting wise, no the 18-55 will not perform better than 18-105. imo their almost the same, and I would in fact opt for the 18-105 since it gives you more range and a slightly larger aperture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emotic View Post
    Rent it?
    oh noss.... by then the BBB virus would be too great to resist
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaikibbler View Post
    I stand by my previous suggestion, 35mm f/1.8 DX. Either that or you go up to ISO1600~3200 and learn from your results. Either way enjoy and use this experience to determine what you need to shoot how you want to shoot.
    ahh.. that's a very useful suggestion to start with.
    Thanks for the pointer =)
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