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Old 6th April 2009   #1
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Default Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

hi sony users can any one tell me whether the sigma fisheyes 10MM f2.8 picture are more dynamic or Carl zeiss 16-35MM more outstanding in term of picture, In dilemma do not know wat to buy.Help please.
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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

I do not have either but what I can tell you is the two lens are meant for different purpose. One is fisheye and the other is not. 16-35 is wide, but not as wide as the 10mm fish. So it depends on your need. For most people, the 16-35 range will be used more often as compared to10mm.
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16-35 is meant for FF, which is actually UWA for FF.

It should be much sharper than sigma though.
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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

Thx anyways, I have do some comparing on the picture from this forum , realize the fisheyes also hve a very dynamics views. whereas, the wide angle lens is straight and flat that make me in dilemma,also the fisheyes is cheaper than CZ.
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CZ is much sharper plus its a FF lens, the sigma 10mm is only for aps-c.
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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

Well, no deny the CZ 16-35mmff is sharper,but already I have uwa 11-18mm from sony that make me even more confuse.
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AFAIK, Sigma 10mm fisheye is design for APS-C camera, so it can achieve 180' view.

CZ 16-35, is design for FF camera. If you use it on APS-C camera, you can only get maximum 83' view.

I am not very sure how to compare these 2 lens.

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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

Originally Posted by kingfishers View Post
Well, no deny the CZ 16-35mmff is sharper,but already I have uwa 11-18mm from sony that make me even more confuse.
no point having 16-35 on aps-c

just stick with your 11-18mm
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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

how bout the 4.5mm? might be a lil extreme though

http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-4-5mm-Ci...9018897&sr=8-4
http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/01/23...eye-portraits/
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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

Originally Posted by doomslayerz View Post
how bout the 4.5mm? might be a lil extreme though

http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-4-5mm-Ci...9018897&sr=8-4

http://www.rytterfalk.com/2008/01/23...eye-portraits/
Err... That is a circular fisheye. AFAIK, more expensive and it produce completely different kind picture than a fisheye lens.

Compare to picture taken from a fisheye:
Fisheye Lens

You will notice the pictures are very different.

You try to poison us right?
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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

That's a good one I don't mind to be poison,It make perfect, learn more from borthers, Thx.
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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

anyway i have intended to shelves this purchase and go for t135mm instead thx brothers
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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

Just picked up the Sigma 10mm F2.8 today. You have to order it as Sigma Marketing does not carry stock...and therefore non of the dealers carry stock. Luckily one of the Sigma guys was in Japan and he personally brought it back with him...which saved me 3-4 weeks of waiting time.

There isn't a whole lot of info on the Sigma 10mm. One of my questions before i got this lens was what the angle of view is for Sony Alpha mount. This is because the Sigma website states 180 degree for Nikon and 167 degrees for Nikon but remaining silent on Sony. After trying it out with my A700 this evening, i believe with Sony APSC it is also a 180 degree angle of view.

The Sony 16mm doesn't quite work for us APSC guys...so 10mm is the only way to go for UWA or fisheye.

The Sigma 10mm whilst being a fisheye is a diagonal fisheye which is different from the other fisheye which produces round images.

If you're after UWA then stick to your Sony 11-18mm with the other option being the Sigma 10-20mm which has a new variant, incorporating HSM and with f3.5 compared to f4-5.6. I believe that one also on indent basis.

So as far as comparing with the CZ16-35mm, its like comparing mangoes with durians.

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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

The lens spec for Sigma Fisheye 10mm F2.8 can be found here:

http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/detail.asp?IDLens=482

So, I had thought it as 180' for quite sometime.
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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

thx Brothers for the information, I also know they don't carry stock in Singapore camera shop, but is still of interest to know how much u bought it , can share with me?
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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

actually im quite interested of getting this 10mm FE lens, which one better this 10mm or 8mm?
how can i get it in singapore? thanks for sharing
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Originally Posted by shin-arudo View Post
actually im quite interested of getting this 10mm FE lens, which one better this 10mm or 8mm?
how can i get it in singapore? thanks for sharing
Goto MS Color or Cathy or some other reputable shops. They can order for you. I got mine from MS Color.
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Default Re: Whether sigam fisheye or CZ 16-35MM

hi lenrek so u have yours 10mm fisheyes from MS how was the picture can so me some of it
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Will be going for an Alpha outing this Friday for landscape/night shoots. Will post the pictures...
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Originally Posted by shin-arudo View Post
actually im quite interested of getting this 10mm FE lens, which one better this 10mm or 8mm?
how can i get it in singapore? thanks for sharing
Forgot to mention... 10mm and 8mm are two different type of FE. One is diagonal while the other one is circular; one is for APS-C while the other one is for FF. So, not sure how to compare and decide which is better.

Sigma Fisheye 10 F2.8 EX DC HSM

Sigma Fisheye 8 F3.5 EX DG Circular
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