Hey guys, chill chill.....
It's juz a matter of each individual interprets that sentence in a different manner. It happens. So dun get worked up...
Lets get back to discussing erm how to get CS back into what it was meant to be
sorry, i need to go back to primary school to learn this subject called
selective comprehension, when i am better at it, i can talk to TheQuestion, who seems to have mastered it very well, even applying it to his own posts! i do not know why, he is very kind.. he even praised me at being good at it.. but i look over his posts and my posts, i think he is better, i think he wins.
good day, outta here..
This forum is very useful, especially for the hobbyists and amateurs ... and if the pros don't use this, well then let it be so ... I think most of the serious CS members DO NOT wish for this forum to become a SBF type of forum, or for it to be associated as such.
I think it was after the previous scandal that the admin took action to disallow the nude/semi-nude organised group shoots (correct me if I'm wrong, but I wwasn't very active here in those days). I think if this time around the negative vibes get too strong .. we probably will all have to band together, mods and members alike, to save our forum. We shouldn't start abandoning ship, at least not yet !
I for one do read CS at work .. and I don't wish for it to become associated with sleaze to the extent that I would seriously feel averse to reading it at work !
Even if one day clubsnap no more another orum will take over and become populated with hobbyists, GWCs, pros and photographers. The 'spirit' lives on with or without CS.
Actually I read the article, nothing special really, just another of those normal articles floating around..
Glad things remain normal, unlike the case last year.
Frankly after reading the article, it don't seem to be as bad as I thought it would be .. It basically did reflect the trend as it is now , maybe with a bit of slant towards the negative end, especially the emphasis on the mollers getting younger.
The only sense I felt was that they wanted to portray that some of the mollers were too young to have a clear idea of what they were heading for .. and hence might be easily exploited .. then again, if the mollers were desperate for money they might have had considered teen prostitution, which is also a societal trend nowadays and a lot worse ...
That being said, I feel we have to wait till the comments start coming in from the readers and general public, for that will decide the consequences for this forum ..
Opinions are like A-holes. Everyone's got one.
As to the immediate effects of the article, well I have shot models before, sometimes in bikini theme ... and if the controversy worsens, the next time I shoot someone on a beach, I'm very sure there would be the general public frowning on me ... I can choose to ignore that, of course .. but then again ... it probably would affect me and/or the model to some extent ....
The other impact this would have on the photog/moller community as I see it, would probabaly be ..
1) it serves as an "advert", encouraging more mollers wannabes to try out this lucrative fields, and it probably would encourage more GWCs to do something similar, and this may not be a bad thing ... from this pool of wannabes, we may get some gems, either photogs or models, who will have slowly improve in terms of skills and professionalism, if they are coached right ....
2) it might serve to discouarge some who really wanted to give the photoshoot business a try, and turn them off, simply because it might get associated with sleaze, and either their families or peers will then discouarge them form entering the fray ...
So let's observe what the trends are going to be ....
Coaching is very subjective. In what sense, shoot style? PP style? Lighting style? In what way do you want to coach? Even with coaching, sometimes the results will be worse, esp if you are stuck with preconceived notions in mind from your mentor. If you read Zeckson's post, this is where a lot of people fail to realise that portrait photography or whatever genre is something that requires time, patience, heartache, headaches and a lot of thrashing and trashing.
I meant to differentiatie those who wanna take nice pics and those who are here solely to take pics of pretty girls ... eventually from this group of hobbyists we should get some who are motivated to improve .. and this should be the value added that CS provides, in terms of photog tips and tricks, equipment etc etc ..
Let's show the general public that beautiful pictures do come out from these shoots, and dispel the notion that only GWCs attend such shoots !
Just a thought ... feel free to shoot it down wahaha