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Old 2nd April 2009   #1
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Default SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

Sorry if similar thread has been posted.

Sharpness comparison

SAL24-70 Carl Zeiss f/5.6 1/60 flash on vs SAL18-70 kit lens f5.6 1/60 flash on


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Default Re: SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

Which picture is from which lens?
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Left:sal2470cz Right:sal1870
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OK, it make sense, the picture on the left is sharper.
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what is the purpose of this pose
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Its not a very accurate example also.
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Default Re: SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

It does show that the CZ24-70 is the superior glass, but do a little experiment, by taking the SAL18-70 close up photo, apply Smart Blur filter in PS CS3.

Amt: 90%
Radius 1.0 pixels
Remove: Lens blur.

And U can attain a similar visual edge contrast made by the CZ 24-70 shot.
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Default Re: SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

Also shows the superior micro-contrast associated with Zeiss lenses... look at the darker lines in the cloth textures.
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Default Re: SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

However, depends on your needs, no doubt CZ has definite superiority over the kit lens, but if you just need casual shots like me, then paying at least 20times for the cz seems too much for me to take...

As it does not mean CZ quality is 20times better...
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Default Re: SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

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what is the purpose of this pose
sharing
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Originally Posted by navlem View Post
Its not a very accurate example also.
Please post the correct comparison. This what the thread is for. Share please
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Default Re: SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

Originally Posted by Lexar View Post
However, depends on your needs, no doubt CZ has definite superiority over the kit lens, but if you just need casual shots like me, then paying at least 20times for the cz seems too much for me to take...

As it does not mean CZ quality is 20times better...
Very true. For daily usage kit lens is good enough. It is also much lighter.
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Originally Posted by trexsg View Post
Very true. For daily usage kit lens is good enough. It is also much lighter.
My comments may have triggered lots of anger amongst all the cz loyalists...but i just want to sound out my thinking as a normal consumer point of view...

but for those pros or perfectionist, of course cz is the only way to go...
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Default Re: SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

probably a fairer test would be CZ 24-70 vs 28-70G.

the test is pretty unfair to the kit lens as the CZ @ F5.6 is within it's 'sweet spot' while the kit lens is shot wide open @ this F stop unless you're trying to put across your point that the kit lens still performs ok when shot wide open.

also remember that every bit of detail resolved will come in handy when doing image crops
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Default Re: SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

When shooting with flash or good light, most lenses looks about the same. Should try @ low light ( not night photography ) with the biggest aperture. CZ will "shine" the details especially in the dark area while the kit lens details almost not there.
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Default Re: SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

you are comparing 2 different grades of lenses.
rather you compare something similar to the CZ 24-70
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Default Re: SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

I have try using kit lens, my shocking it was very awkward the hair turned to be negro,,but the the cz lens stand as per the same and sharp with very clear outlining without using any CS4 adjustment.
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heheh see my posting in gallery
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Default Re: SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

TS thanks for sharing, and taking the time to compare.
No doubt, the CZ lens is superior compare to the kits lens, especially if we pixel peep.
If you can afford, just go for the best.
If you cannot afford, the kit lens will still help you to capture the same scene with less details. It is really no big deal.
Of course, I know owning Carl Zeiss or Leica lenses will make one feel good.
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Default Re: SAL2470 CZ vs Kit lens SAL18-70

It is not really great to own CZ lens off course;but people like us do not know how to use photoshop properly,so have no choice lor hehehe
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