Swapping to Sony

wenzheng · 27th March 2009

Hello fellow snappers,

I am a canon 400d user with tamron 17-50mm lens and i am really satisfied with this lens, however i always thought that it would be perfect if it had image stabliser, but the additional $600 for canon 17-55mm IS is not justifiable for me. Yesterday it came across my mind if i swap over to sony A200 and then it would be perfect! It costs around the same for the 400d and A200 in B&S. Would like to ask any A200 users here did the same thing or used these 2 cameras before? In terms of specifications i prefer A200 but how does the image quality and noise compared? Furthermore another very good reason is I can get KM 70-210 f/4 for just $350 compared to canon L telephoto which cost $1k more!

kelvint81 · 27th March 2009

hehe now u know the good thing of having a built in IS on the body.
Well if you change over to A200 i think you will even lose more $$$?

wenzheng · 27th March 2009

Yea should have choose the system carefully in the first place because i wont be upgrading to FF anytime soon so 17-50 + entry level is enough for me. I dont think I will lose much 400d body can sell $~500 and A200 body cost < $600... So.... Should I? =D

Galdor · 27th March 2009

Another proven case that Sony is not that expensive as compared to the other camps.

In terms of noise, Sony will not be able to match Canon, but the colour from the sensor is superb, which is why I always prefer a CCD vs the CMOS. I have a KM 5D, 7D and a A700 and I used my 2 KM cams more than my A700 although my A700 has better noise control since it's using the CMOS sensor too. Anyway noise is not an issue to me as I don't really use high ISO.

IMO, if you need to shoot in high ISO and want cleaner images, stick to Canon and live with what you have, otherwise, you are always welcome to join the Sony user's club.

For image quality, you can always check the thread which shows photos taken by Sony cameras in this sub forum.

kelvint81 · 27th March 2009

Originally Posted by wenzheng

Yea should have choose the system carefully in the first place because i wont be upgrading to FF anytime soon so 17-50 + entry level is enough for me. I dont think I will lose much 400d body can sell $~500 and A200 body cost < $600... So.... Should I? =D

well your tamron also need to sell.
Cannot mount on A200.
diff mounts

wenzheng · 27th March 2009

Thanks for the replies! Yea i don't mind a bit more noise and top up a bit $$ for IS on ALL lenses..lol. would be a good long time investments! Sorry what's the main diff between ccd and cmos sensors? Cmos better noise control, CCD better colors? I primarily shoot landscapes(with a tripod) and general travel photography.. So IQ and color will be more attractive than noise levels. Furthermore with added camera body IS i can use lower ISOs except stopping motion but i don't even stop motion that often in low light..

billpepsi · 27th March 2009

Originally Posted by wenzheng

Hello fellow snappers,

I am a canon 400d user with tamron 17-50mm lens and i am really satisfied with this lens, however i always thought that it would be perfect if it had image stabliser, but the additional $600 for canon 17-55mm IS is not justifiable for me.

Read from somewhere that the built-in stabliser is more effective for wide angel lens than tele lens. Is that still true?

lenrek · 27th March 2009

I think, I saw somewhere in B&S that A200 + Kit lens is less than 700 SGD. If you budget is low, you can even look out for A100. It should be a lot cheaper than A200, and can also produce nice result.

There is a new review about A100 with the latest firmware update (1.04):

http://www.alphamountworld.com/revie...-v1.4-firmware

All Sony DSLR has SSS (IS in camera body).

Galdor · 27th March 2009

Originally Posted by wenzheng

Thanks for the replies! Yea i don't mind a bit more noise and top up a bit $$ for IS on ALL lenses..lol. would be a good long time investments! Sorry what's the main diff between ccd and cmos sensors? Cmos better noise control, CCD better colors? I primarily shoot landscapes(with a tripod) and general travel photography.. So IQ and color will be more attractive than noise levels. Furthermore with added camera body IS i can use lower ISOs except stopping motion but i don't even stop motion that often in low light..

It's basically 2 different types of sensors processing the data captured. You may want to do a search for this to understand more.

nzw89 · 27th March 2009

Hi bro, if you have no intention of going full-frame in the future, Olympus is also a very good brand to consider too! Cathay's prices for E-3 is certainly competitive when compared to A700, you may even have a hard time deciding too haha. Just my point of view.

Galdor · 27th March 2009

Originally Posted by nzw89

Hi bro, if you have no intention of going full-frame in the future, Olympus is also a very good brand to consider too! Cathay's prices for E-3 is certainly competitive when compared to A700, you may even have a hard time deciding too haha. Just my point of view.

Olympus system is good but the sensor size is too small (2X crop factor) the noise will be more pronounce.

27th March 2009	#1
wenzheng Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CCK Posts: 102	Swapping to Sony Hello fellow snappers, I am a canon 400d user with tamron 17-50mm lens and i am really satisfied with this lens, however i always thought that it would be perfect if it had image stabliser, but the additional $600 for canon 17-55mm IS is not justifiable for me. Yesterday it came across my mind if i swap over to sony A200 and then it would be perfect! It costs around the same for the 400d and A200 in B&S. Would like to ask any A200 users here did the same thing or used these 2 cameras before? In terms of specifications i prefer A200 but how does the image quality and noise compared? Furthermore another very good reason is I can get KM 70-210 f/4 for just $350 compared to canon L telephoto which cost $1k more!

27th March 2009	#2
kelvint81 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 755	Re: Swapping to Sony hehe now u know the good thing of having a built in IS on the body. Well if you change over to A200 i think you will even lose more $$$? __________________ My humble photos. http://picasaweb.google.com/kelvint81

27th March 2009	#3
wenzheng Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CCK Posts: 102	Re: Swapping to Sony Yea should have choose the system carefully in the first place because i wont be upgrading to FF anytime soon so 17-50 + entry level is enough for me. I dont think I will lose much 400d body can sell $~500 and A200 body cost < $600... So.... Should I? =D

27th March 2009	#4
Galdor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Planet Gaia Posts: 8,281	Re: Swapping to Sony Another proven case that Sony is not that expensive as compared to the other camps. In terms of noise, Sony will not be able to match Canon, but the colour from the sensor is superb, which is why I always prefer a CCD vs the CMOS. I have a KM 5D, 7D and a A700 and I used my 2 KM cams more than my A700 although my A700 has better noise control since it's using the CMOS sensor too. Anyway noise is not an issue to me as I don't really use high ISO. IMO, if you need to shoot in high ISO and want cleaner images, stick to Canon and live with what you have, otherwise, you are always welcome to join the Sony user's club. For image quality, you can always check the thread which shows photos taken by Sony cameras in this sub forum. __________________ Good lens or Lousy lens also can't beat @ great photographer with kit lens - Galdor@Alphadslr

27th March 2009	#6
wenzheng Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CCK Posts: 102	Re: Swapping to Sony Thanks for the replies! Yea i don't mind a bit more noise and top up a bit $$ for IS on ALL lenses..lol. would be a good long time investments! Sorry what's the main diff between ccd and cmos sensors? Cmos better noise control, CCD better colors? I primarily shoot landscapes(with a tripod) and general travel photography.. So IQ and color will be more attractive than noise levels. Furthermore with added camera body IS i can use lower ISOs except stopping motion but i don't even stop motion that often in low light..

27th March 2009	#8
lenrek Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Singapore Posts: 725	Re: Swapping to Sony I think, I saw somewhere in B&S that A200 + Kit lens is less than 700 SGD. If you budget is low, you can even look out for A100. It should be a lot cheaper than A200, and can also produce nice result. There is a new review about A100 with the latest firmware update (1.04): http://www.alphamountworld.com/revie...-v1.4-firmware All Sony DSLR has SSS (IS in camera body). __________________ Lenrek's photostream Lenrek's camera equipment lineup

27th March 2009	#10
nzw89 New Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 45	Re: Swapping to Sony Hi bro, if you have no intention of going full-frame in the future, Olympus is also a very good brand to consider too! Cathay's prices for E-3 is certainly competitive when compared to A700, you may even have a hard time deciding too haha. Just my point of view.