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    A DISPUTE over licence fees has forced most of Singapore's radio stations to stop streaming online.

    Following an amendment to the Copyright Act last November, the Recording Industry Performance Singapore (Rips) asked radio broadcasters to pay an annual licensing fee if they wanted to continue their Internet radio service.

    Currently, over-the-air radio stations are exempted from having to pay royalties to record companies. The November amendment, though, clarified that this exemption did not extend to Internet streaming services.

    Because of this, said Rips general manager Barbara Wong, broadcasters need to obtain 'licences to continue their Internet streaming, just as their counterparts in many other jurisdictions are required to'. She declined to elaborate as 'these friendly negotiations are still ongoing'.

    Last week, though, MediaCorp and Safra Radio suspended the Internet streaming of their radio stations. MediaCorp runs more than a dozen radio stations, including Class 95 and Yes 93.3; Safra Radio operates two, Power98 and 88.3 Jia.

    A MediaCorp spokesman said it is 'still continuing with our negotiations with Rips...The service will be resumed if we can come to an agreement'.

    Safra Radio did not reply by press time, but a notice on its website said that 'Internet streaming of Power98FM is no longer available until further notice'.

    For now, SPH UnionWorks' Radio 91.3 and Radio 100.3 stations remain online. A UnionWorks spokesman declined to comment, citing ongoing negotiations.

    A source familiar with the issue here told The Straits Times that one of the main stumbling blocks is the five-figure sum per station each year that Rips wants. If Rips and the broadcasters cannot reach an agreement, the broadcasters may simply stop their Internet radio services for good.

    No statistics are available on the popularity of Internet radio with Singapore audiences, but according to a 2008 American study, 13 per cent of Americans aged 12 and above listen to Internet radio every week, up from 11 per cent in 2007.

    what the bleah...

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    I never listened to mediacorp radio anyway.

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    i do.. cos i dun hve to buy radio ma.. cheapo, but effective!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Potter View Post
    I never listened to mediacorp radio anyway.
    it is not about media corps only dude. it is about all streaming radios...

    dude, the internet is not able only about media corp..not only about singapore...dude, the world is very big you know....

    we are talking about the WHOLE world.. meaning no more streaming music...

    actually this law affected the state many yrs ago....

    consider yourself lucky...

    for those who listen to foreign streaming radios will know wat i mean...
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    just saw the news on newspaper and my iphone unable to use Fstream to get channel for the pass 1wk.

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    Never listened to Mediacorp Radio anyway. So much bloody product placement and ads. Sucks.

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    Its been several months and still no resumption of services. Any progress, or its gone for good?

    Quote Originally Posted by swampthing View Post
    Never listened to Mediacorp Radio anyway. So much bloody product placement and ads. Sucks.
    I fail to understand this grouse. What you listen over the internet is the same as over the air. I fail to see how the ads are affecting streaming radio in particular.

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    if what you hear over the air is the same as streaming. then why bother if they discontinued streaming radio. just listen to over the air.
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    From what I know now US stations have to pay by per song per user rate, i.e they pay by the number of users connected and number of songs each user listening to. I listen to US radio stations online and they have put in place measure like interactive interfaces that makes you respond every hour so that they don't waste royalties on people that on the streaming and leave the house or do something else etc. and not actually listening to the station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoheadGostern View Post
    if what you hear over the air is the same as streaming. then why bother if they discontinued streaming radio. just listen to over the air.
    hint : shoutcast .
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    HK radio is still free...

    Anyway, I realised that they went offline a month ago... haha... it's sucky, cause I can't listen to the local radio station when I'm overseas..

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    What I meant was that the radio stations have to pay royalties on a per song per user basis. No need to pay to listen as a end-user.

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    They are back on air and I'm hooked! *end plug

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    Quote Originally Posted by weevil84 View Post
    What I meant was that the radio stations have to pay royalties on a per song per user basis. No need to pay to listen as a end-user.
    yes, i understand what you mean. but most don't. coz this ruling affected the state first and there was huge uproar, the impact was greatest in the state than Singapore coz most Singaporeans dont know what is shoutcast or music streaming...they only know about local radio, they only listen to local radio. ...z.zz....

    but in the state, there were lot of voluntary DJ, they shoutcast as a hobby , they played any songs they like, they are just there to make friends or to promote games and products and etc.....

    radio stations always play the same few songs everyday and people (including myself) get sick and will rather listen to shoutcast. so who lose money? the radio stations, the music record companies...

    so, it needs to be stopped. the law stopped it...and introduced the loyalty thingy.
    Last edited by ninelives; 14th May 2009 at 09:00 PM.
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