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    Annie Leibovitz, the renowned New York photographer who has taken portraits of the Queen, has pawned the rights to her life's work in order to raise nearly 11 million to pay off her debts.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...pay-debts.html


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    wow 16million just by taking photos not bad lol ^^
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    Default Re: Annie Leibovitz pawns copyright to life's work to pay debts

    Quote Originally Posted by kormmandos View Post
    Annie Leibovitz, the renowned New York photographer who has taken portraits of the Queen, has pawned the rights to her life's work in order to raise nearly 11 million to pay off her debts.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...pay-debts.html


    Would love hear ClubSnappers' thoughts on this.
    It's not a creative issue here. I think she is a really talented photographer. It's her lifestyle issue that is the focus. That's her problem to solve. She would not be the first celebrity or well paid talent to lose their shirt and she would not be the last...either they mismanaged it or they trusted someone too much to do it for them.

    If her works are worth alot more in the future, she will not see a dime of it if she does not buy them back later and hopefully not at too high a price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poondq View Post
    wow 16million just by taking photos not bad lol ^^
    eh.. i don't think this is funny....

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    Quote Originally Posted by poondq View Post
    wow 16million just by taking photos not bad lol ^^
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    Times are tough and even celebrity photographers are feeling the big pinch.

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    so sad...
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    For someone like Annie Leibovitz to own that much value to the rights to her own images, it shows simply that she can easily earn from others that she's being sought after.

    Vanity Fair, Vogue and other mags would not hesitate one bit to hire her professional talent to produce the kind of creativity that she's so well known for.

    To me, I think at some point of time, its time to cash in on the value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agape01 View Post
    For someone like Annie Leibovitz to own that much value to the rights to her own images, it shows simply that she can easily earn from others that she's being sought after.

    Vanity Fair, Vogue and other mags would not hesitate one bit to hire her professional talent to produce the kind of creativity that she's so well known for.

    To me, I think at some point of time, its time to cash in on the value.
    Problem here is...the value that is mentioned 11 million? That is only a speculated worth of returns on them being used as in licensed out by publishers, ad agencies....etc. That means, they could be worth alot less or nothing in the worst case scenario down the road. She is hoping to borrow against that fact of her reputation and what would be perceived as worth paying for in royalty and licencing fees or if someone love the photo she took enough to want to buy the rights to them. It's art, you can not put a value to it. So whether she can get 11 million worth or more is still not known. I hope she makes it out not too badly. Given the tough economic situation trying to get your money's worth is hard. We have to also know that NOT ALL people with financial problem is due to the present crisis. It just made it worst at this time. Wrong Place, Wrong Time. She can still get hired to do projects by magazine and commissioned by big organisations and celebrities to do their shoot to earn her daily "bread" but am sure there will be some fee reduction in these tough times. The question now is...how much she can make now...can it cover the bleeding?

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    What surprised me was the signing away of rights to her FUTURE work as well, which means every single click on the shutter that she'll ever make.
    I don't care what she says, that qualifies for desperation in my books

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    Quote Originally Posted by kandinsky View Post
    What surprised me was the signing away of rights to her FUTURE work as well, which means every single click on the shutter that she'll ever make.
    I don't care what she says, that qualifies for desperation in my books
    Yeah... agree that it may be a desperate attempt. But what can a photographer really 'do' in a time like this? For any other photographers, if they were to try a similar attempt, they probably get a kick that sends them out the door! haha....
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    Quote Originally Posted by sammy888 View Post
    Problem here is...the value that is mentioned 11 million? That is only a speculated worth of returns on them being used as in licensed out by publishers, ad agencies....etc. That means, they could be worth alot less or nothing in the worst case scenario down the road. She is hoping to borrow against that fact of her reputation and what would be perceived as worth paying for in royalty and licencing fees or if someone love the photo she took enough to want to buy the rights to them. It's art, you can not put a value to it. So whether she can get 11 million worth or more is still not known. I hope she makes it out not too badly. Given the tough economic situation trying to get your money's worth is hard. We have to also know that NOT ALL people with financial problem is due to the present crisis. It just made it worst at this time. Wrong Place, Wrong Time. She can still get hired to do projects by magazine and commissioned by big organisations and celebrities to do their shoot to earn her daily "bread" but am sure there will be some fee reduction in these tough times. The question now is...how much she can make now...can it cover the bleeding?
    even then...wtf was she spending on?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kandinsky View Post
    What surprised me was the signing away of rights to her FUTURE work as well, which means every single click on the shutter that she'll ever make.
    I don't care what she says, that qualifies for desperation in my books
    lol she can siam by "retiring"
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    Default Re: Annie Leibovitz pawns copyright to life's work to pay debts

    well if you read it properly, she did not "pawn" nor "sell" all her works, past, present and future.

    she merely put them up as collateral to secure a loan. so she still owns them all unless she defaults on the loan. it's pretty much like doing a reverse mortgage on your house and using it as collateral to secure a loan to start a business or something.
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    I quote the artical:
    "Art Capital issues loans of $500,000 or more at interest rates from six per cent to 16 per cent."
    "Art lenders typically lend up to 40 per cent of what they believe the works to be worth, and usually take posession of the works."

    6 to 16 percent interest. That's daylight robbery. They lend up to 40% of the value of the work, and take the artwork away while the loan is being serviced. If you default, you lose 100% of the artwork, for a loan that's only 40% of it's value. Again, ridiculous. You might as well sell off the art for 100% of it's value instead of giving these people 60% of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuestion View Post
    even then...wtf was she spending on?!
    According to the article (if you had read it) she needs it for paying mortgage for her properties, as you may know the housing market in the US has crumbled, housing prices are very low now........

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    one of the issues here is with the townhouse she bought
    she got into some trouble with that, it's abit of a scandal in New York.

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