ClubSNAP Photography Forums

Go Back   ClubSNAP Photography Forums > General Discussions > Newbies Corner

Newbies Corner The best place for those new to photography and ClubSNAP.


 
Thread Tools
Old 25th February 2009   #1
chech01
New Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4
Default Bokeh for beginners

any thread out there already have such info that I can go to? thanks

Just bought a D90 cos I think bokeh shots are cool
chech01 is offline  
Old 25th February 2009   #2
Spikey86
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 65
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Originally Posted by chech01 View Post
any thread out there already have such info that I can go to? thanks

Just bought a D90 cos I think bokeh shots are cool
Hey, check tis site out -> check here.

I've tried it out and it actually works, it's damn cute. However u need a lens with large aperture though, i'm using 50mm f1.8 for tis shot.


Last edited by Spikey86; 25th February 2009 at 11:06 PM.
Spikey86 is offline  
Old 25th February 2009   #3
ortega
Moderator
 
ortega's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: NorthEast
Posts: 16,505
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

1st google bokeh to get the definition
__________________
The Law
ortega is offline  
Sponsored Link
Old 25th February 2009   #4
Octarine
Member
 
Octarine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Pasir Ris
Posts: 3,544
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

You can feed the term 'bokeh' into the search engine of this site. You should have ample time to read it all
Octarine is offline  
Old 25th February 2009   #5
Rashkae
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 8,267
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Originally Posted by chech01 View Post
Just bought a D90 cos I think bokeh shots are cool
It's the lens, not the camera...
__________________
Alpha
Rashkae is offline  
Old 25th February 2009   #6
dynermite
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: east
Posts: 65
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

bokeh is basically the amount of DOF in a photo. or rather, in layman's terms, the blur blur background. haha.
__________________
i don't bite. i shoot.
dynermite is offline  
Old 26th February 2009   #7
valentinik
New Member
 
valentinik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: North East
Posts: 38
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Originally Posted by dynermite View Post
bokeh is basically the amount of DOF in a photo. or rather, in layman's terms, the blur blur background. haha.
Bokeh is the term used to describe the quality of background blur in a photo, not how blur (OOF) it is. Don't mix up Shallow DOF with Bokeh.

Cheers,
JD
__________________
Valentinik
Canon 50D | 24-105 f/4L | 70-200 f/2.8L IS | 50 f/1.4 | EX580II
valentinik is offline  
Old 26th February 2009   #8
Rashkae
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 8,267
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Originally Posted by dynermite View Post
bokeh is basically the amount of DOF in a photo. or rather, in layman's terms, the blur blur background. haha.
Don't try to define things if you don't know what it is.

Bokeh is the *quality* of the out-of focus areas. NOT the amount.
__________________
Alpha
Rashkae is offline  
Old 26th February 2009   #9
dynermite
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: east
Posts: 65
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Originally Posted by valentinik View Post
Bokeh is the term used to describe the quality of background blur in a photo, not how blur (OOF) it is. Don't mix up Shallow DOF with Bokeh.

Cheers,
JD
Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
Don't try to define things if you don't know what it is.

Bokeh is the *quality* of the out-of focus areas. NOT the amount.
oh wow. you learn something new everyday. thanks for clearing my misconception.
__________________
i don't bite. i shoot.
dynermite is offline  
Old 26th February 2009   #10
twisted illusion
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 500
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Originally Posted by chech01 View Post
any thread out there already have such info that I can go to? thanks

Just bought a D90 cos I think bokeh shots are cool
easiest way to play now if u r with kit lens i think is zoom all the way to 105, then set A to 5.6, select centre pt focus, then aim and shot... u shld get bokeh shots... but make sure ur subject and far away from the background...
twisted illusion is offline  
Old 26th February 2009   #11
Dee88
Member
 
Dee88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Singapore
Posts: 62
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

I just tried mine few days ago and it was FUN!

This may help!


__________________
Nikon D40 - Picdump.Blogrot.Com
Dee88 is offline  
Old 26th February 2009   #12
Rashkae
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 8,267
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Originally Posted by Dee88 View Post
I just tried mine few days ago and it was FUN!

This may help!
That's a discussion on shaped bokeh though, not "bokeh for beginners" in general.
__________________
Alpha
Rashkae is offline  
Old 26th February 2009   #13
Dee88
Member
 
Dee88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Singapore
Posts: 62
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Yes I understand that. Since the rest already explained that, I thought it would be nice to share on how they can explore more with bokeh.
__________________
Nikon D40 - Picdump.Blogrot.Com
Dee88 is offline  
Old 1st March 2009   #14
chech01
New Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Originally Posted by twisted illusion View Post
easiest way to play now if u r with kit lens i think is zoom all the way to 105, then set A to 5.6, select centre pt focus, then aim and shot... u shld get bokeh shots... but make sure ur subject and far away from the background...
My attempt with my 18-105 lens on a D90 is not so hot. Maybe I am too close to subject or my background is not too contrasting.

This is what I did:
a. Turn off auto focus to manual
b. settings was at A
c. Tried with f3.5
d. result was not as dramatic as what some others posted

anyone using the same equipment as mine and can give me some pointers to how they achieve it?

Thanks
chech01 is offline  
Old 1st March 2009   #15
ZerocoolAstra
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Central Singapore
Posts: 1,638
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

if you can set your aperture to be f/3.5, that means you're at the widest focal length of 18mm.
At that setting, you can't achieve a narrow enough depth of field to get nice out of focus background.
So you need to zoom to the max 105mm (which corresponds to f/5.6), aim at an object nearby, and make sure that the distance between yourself and the object is MUCH less than the distance from the object to the background.

EXAMPLE:

You (cameraman) ------- Friend (subject) ------------------------------------------ Building (background)
<-----------3m--------------->|<----------------------------300m--------------------------->|
__________________
Nikon D80 user

Last edited by ZerocoolAstra; 1st March 2009 at 03:23 PM.
ZerocoolAstra is offline  
Old 1st March 2009   #16
chech01
New Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
if you can set your aperture to be f/3.5, that means you're at the widest focal length of 18mm.
At that setting, you can't achieve a narrow enough depth of field to get nice out of focus background.
So you need to zoom to the max 105mm (which corresponds to f/5.6), aim at an object nearby, and make sure that the distance between yourself and the object is MUCH less than the distance from the object to the background.

EXAMPLE:

You (cameraman) ------- Friend (subject) ------------------------------------------ Building (background)
<-----------3m--------------->|<----------------------------300m--------------------------->|
thanks for the tip. I will try this out later. Hopefully I get a good bokeh else my investment on the new camera would be a waste cos my reason for a D90 was due to bokeh.
chech01 is offline  
Old 1st March 2009   #17
ahbian
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,637
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Originally Posted by chech01 View Post
thanks for the tip. I will try this out later. Hopefully I get a good bokeh else my investment on the new camera would be a waste cos my reason for a D90 was due to bokeh.
Actually, the bokeh would be more due to the lens than your camera. That being said, it's quite a narrow approach to get a camera/lens/accessory just for bokeh. There is more to photography than that.
__________________
myflickr
ahbian is offline  
Old 1st March 2009   #18
Rashkae
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 8,267
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Originally Posted by chech01 View Post
thanks for the tip. I will try this out later. Hopefully I get a good bokeh else my investment on the new camera would be a waste cos my reason for a D90 was due to bokeh.
As mentioned before, that's more due to the lens than the D90. If you wanted bokeh, you should have gotten any DSLR, even the cheapest second-hand one you can get, and a nice, cheap 50 or 85mm f/1.8.

That might have cost 500-600 SGD and gotten you the bokeh you want.
__________________
Alpha
Rashkae is offline  
Old 1st March 2009   #19
twisted illusion
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 500
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Originally Posted by chech01 View Post
My attempt with my 18-105 lens on a D90 is not so hot. Maybe I am too close to subject or my background is not too contrasting.

This is what I did:
a. Turn off auto focus to manual
b. settings was at A
c. Tried with f3.5
d. result was not as dramatic as what some others posted

anyone using the same equipment as mine and can give me some pointers to how they achieve it?

Thanks
see what zerocoolastra tells u... its about the same as wat i trying to tell u... for u case, as in lens, best bokeh can be achieve by f5.6 focal lenght at 105, distance between ur subject and background futherest apart... it can be done one, u just need more experience to achieve it... tot it will be limited by ur f5.6... if u hv some more budget, u can get most economical prime lens 50mm f1.8... new is less than 200...
__________________
life is but a dream...
twisted illusion is offline  
Old 13th March 2009   #20
kyawswar
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1
Default Re: Bokeh for beginners

Here is my attempt..

kyawswar is offline  
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +8. The time now is 06:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2002 - 2009 ClubSNAP.com
Page generated in 0.13183 seconds with 7 queries