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    Default HP dv7-1000 notebook or Macbook Pro?

    I am thinking of changing my desktop PC to a powerful laptop which i can carry around when i need to.

    only 2 models which interest me.

    One is the HP dv7-1000 series and the other one is the Macbook pro. Both are 17 inches laptop.

    Just want to do a survey and interest check on which model do you prefer.

    Here are the specs:

    HP dv7-1000 series
    Processor, operating system and memory
    Operating system installed
    Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium 32-bit

    Processor type
    Intel® Centrino® 2 processor technology
    • Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor T9400
    • 2.53 GHz , Level 2 cache 6 MB, 1066 MHz Front Bus Speed

    Standard memory
    3072 MB

    Memory type
    DDR2 800 MHz

    Memory layout
    (1 x 1024 MB + 1 x 2048 MB)

    Maximum memory
    Supports up to 8 GB DDR2 memory

    System features
    Internal drives
    500 GB (2 x 250 GB)

    Hard disk drive speed
    5400 rpm

    Optical drive type
    Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD±R/RW Double Layer

    Display size
    17” WXGA+ High-Definition AG Display

    Display resolution
    1440 x 900

    Graphic subsystem name
    NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT

    Video RAM
    512 MB dedicated memory

    External I/O ports
    4 USB 2.0 (4th shared with eSATA port), 1 HDMI connector, 1 eSATA Combo, 1 VGA port, 1 RJ45 ethernet connector, 1 RJ11 modem connector, 2 headphones-out, 1 mic-in, 1 IEEE 1394, Consumer IR, Expansion Port 3, Integrated Fingerprint reader, AC Adapter

    Expansion slots
    One ExpressCard/54 slot (also supports ExpressCard/34)

    Speakers and microphone
    Altec Lansing® speakers with integrated sub-woofer

    Webcam
    HP Pavilion Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone

    Network interface
    Integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN

    Modem
    High speed 56K modem

    Wireless technologies
    Wireless LAN 802.11a/b/g/n

    Dimensions / weight / warranty
    Product dimensions (W x D x H)
    39.6 cm (W) x 28.5 cm (D) x 3.34 cm (min H)/4.21 cm (max H)

    Product weight
    3.46kg

    Power supply type
    90 W AC Power Adapter

    Battery type
    8-cell Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) battery

    Warranty
    1 year, parts and labour



    Macbook Pro

    (MB471ZP/A) 17-inch, 2.66GHz MacBook Pro
    Enclosure Precision aluminium unibody
    Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
    L2 cache 3MB shared 6MB shared
    System bus 1066MHz
    Memory 4GB (two 2GB SO-DIMMs) of 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM; supports up to 8GB
    Hard drive4 320GB Serial ATA; 5400 rpm
    Slot-loading optical drive 8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT graphics processor; and NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory3
    Graphics memory 512MB GDDR3
    Video Built-in iSight camera; Mini DisplayPort output port with support for DVI, VGA, and dual-link DVI (requires adapters, sold separately)
    Display 17-inch (diagonal) high-resolution LED-backlit glossy widescreen display, 1920-by-1200 resolution
    Three USB 2.0 ports (up to 480 Mbps)
    One FireWire 800 port (up to 800 Mbps)
    Audio Built-in stereo speakers, built-in omnidirectional microphone, combined optical digital input/analog line in, combined optical digital output/analog line out
    Networking Built-in 10/100/1000BASE-T (Gigabit) Ethernet

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    Default Re: HP dv7-1000 notebook or Macbook Pro?

    Price of HP is much cheaper than MBP.
    Spec of HP is much better than MBP
    Blue ray,


    Mac Sys and interface is much better than HP Window system
    Mac design better than HP
    dual graphics

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    Default Re: HP dv7-1000 notebook or Macbook Pro?

    imho, when you are comparing two high powered notebooks running on different platform, you should not be comparing specs. You should be asking yourself:
    1. Do i prefer OSX or vista?
    2. Software support for specialised programs
    3. Gaming

    If for extreme gaming, you are better off with vista.

    For items like blueray, and some special harwares, these are not an everyday used items. you can add them on as external peripherals when need to use on an ad hoc basis.

    Sometimes, less is more.

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    Default Re: HP dv7-1000 notebook or Macbook Pro?

    MBP, DDR3 ram, up to 8gb with good graphics and heard the 17" can go up to 8hrs on battery. But you have to balace the price to performance ratio. If can afford it, i recommend the MBP anytime. Screen resolution is also much higher than the HP. Thus the price. The plus will be able to run osx and also windows(on bootcamp or vmware).
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    Quote Originally Posted by chanxj View Post
    MBP, DDR3 ram, up to 8gb with good graphics and heard the 17" can go up to 8hrs on battery. But you have to balace the price to performance ratio. If can afford it, i recommend the MBP anytime. Screen resolution is also much higher than the HP. Thus the price. The plus will be able to run osx and also windows(on bootcamp or vmware).
    What if the price of the HP i can get is half the price of the MBP $2k? will you consider the MBP still?

    Platform wise, both can be use for all purposes. It is most probably design and the brand which influence people to choose that product.

    I like both and these 2 system will be able to satisfy my needs.

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    mbp 17" is around 4k+ la. I personally would WANT the mbp, but in real life have to balance lorz. I personally like the MBP for its design cause its build quality is generally good, weight optimisation(im serious about this), and since the drivers are custom written by apple, should give more stability(so far so good for my macbook). I'm actually allright with either as long as it gets the job done. It depends on what threadstarter wants to do. If he is like me, edit on FCP, then bo bian, have to get MBP lorz.

    I personally would actually get a 15" laptop(lighter, cheaper, makan less battery) and buy an extra Large large large screen to work with as secondary monitor when portability is not a concern instead.
    Chanxj
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    Quote Originally Posted by lighty View Post
    What if the price of the HP i can get is half the price of the MBP $2k? will you consider the MBP still?

    Platform wise, both can be use for all purposes. It is most probably design and the brand which influence people to choose that product.

    I like both and these 2 system will be able to satisfy my needs.
    I found that computer is more than satisfying our needs or requirements.

    Sometimes, it is the feel, whether we love and comfortable with the user interface, the workflow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Potter View Post
    I found that computer is more than satisfying our needs or requirements.

    Sometimes, it is the feel, whether we love and comfortable with the user interface, the workflow.
    The technology is forever upgrading and interface or platform will change as time passes so i believe that workflow or interface can be accustomed to.

    i am more towards the HP model but of cos i would like to see what is so good about MBP?
    Will be borrowing the MPB from my friend but it is a 15" model to try it out.

    The price ratio is not really favorable for MPB. i can buy 2 high end or 1 really high end laptop from other brands.

    I hope with the hands on, i can be convinced to switch to MPB instead.. and most probably 15 "

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    Default Re: HP dv7-1000 notebook or Macbook Pro?

    HP almost cost twice lesser den the MBP.

    i would say. get the HP...... save the money for other things as economy not so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lighty View Post
    Spec of HP is much better than MBP
    Blue ray
    Err are you sure the HP spec is much better then MBP?

    HP running on DDR2 ram and MBP running DDR3 lei and also got so many more things faster then the HP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by contaxable View Post
    imho, when you are comparing two high powered notebooks running on different platform, you should not be comparing specs. You should be asking yourself:
    1. Do i prefer OSX or vista?
    2. Software support for specialised programs
    3. Gaming

    If for extreme gaming, you are better off with vista.

    For items like blueray, and some special harwares, these are not an everyday used items. you can add them on as external peripherals when need to use on an ad hoc basis.

    Sometimes, less is more.
    FYI all these above you quoted also apply to MBP, you can run Windows completely in MBP also.

    So to say MBP is Multi OS enable.

    The question should be;

    Do you prefer to just run Windows/Linux only in HP or prefer to allow you to run OSX, Windows, Linux, Unix in MBP?

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    Default Re: HP dv7-1000 notebook or Macbook Pro?

    Quote Originally Posted by NiteWind View Post
    Err are you sure the HP spec is much better then MBP?

    HP running on DDR2 ram and MBP running DDR3 lei and also got so many more things faster then the HP.
    when paying the double the price also.

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    Default Re: HP dv7-1000 notebook or Macbook Pro?

    Quote Originally Posted by glennyong View Post
    when paying the double the price also.
    lolz.. ya no choice cause better spec and software ma.... Cause if like that compare... then wait end up compare

    Netbook with HP....

    If you really need such highend graphic and speed of coz you have to pay for the price. If not a much better compare will be the HP with MBP 15"

    Trust me if you are thinking of bring around a laptop then forget about MBP 17" cause it slightly too big to be easily carry around.

    If you really dont need that high end spec like MBP type why not at a look at MB will do. They are also fast enough to do video and photo editing.

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    Default Re: HP dv7-1000 notebook or Macbook Pro?

    Quote Originally Posted by NiteWind View Post
    lolz.. ya no choice cause better spec and software ma.... Cause if like that compare... then wait end up compare

    Netbook with HP....

    If you really need such highend graphic and speed of coz you have to pay for the price. If not a much better compare will be the HP with MBP 15"

    Trust me if you are thinking of bring around a laptop then forget about MBP 17" cause it slightly too big to be easily carry around.

    If you really dont need that high end spec like MBP type why not at a look at MB will do. They are also fast enough to do video and photo editing.
    yeah. the MB is good enough IMHO, or just get the HP...... HP battery life is good also nowadays.... MBP still have issues with their adapters and trackpads..

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    Default Re: HP dv7-1000 notebook or Macbook Pro?

    The graphic card is different, the screen is different, the processor is different, battery is also differnt and so is the build quality of the laptop. I feel cannot really compare la. Want to compare have to compare with something similar build quality like a thinkpad. In this case the onli thing can use as consideration is budget. Also I think the 15" mbp is a fairer comparison due to screen resolution size. No point having a low resolution but large screen. Only adds on to weight.
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    Default Re: HP dv7-1000 notebook or Macbook Pro?

    U prefer Vista or OS X? Best is to look beyond what is written on the paper and see the bigger picture.

    Windows 7 is just around the corner if you don't mind waiting till September 09. Very promising and 'lighter' than Vista. PC is more cost effective and gets the job done as well. Maybe not as 'cool' as a Mac but if your basic needs are met, why not go for the cheaper alternative? You can save the money for something else, e.g. a new lens maybe? Hehe.

    If money is of no concern to you, go buy a Mac. Its a beautiful and well thought out system. I prefer working on OS X because I find it more productive and responsive. Text and images looks much nicer on OS X. I do a lot of design btw so looking good is part and parcel of my work. Another thing to love a Mac is you won't have to update your anti-virus every now and then. Helps me sleep better at night too.

    Hope that helps and best of luck choosing the right tool for the job. Cheers!
    Last edited by hazmee; 27th February 2009 at 10:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiteWind View Post
    FYI all these above you quoted also apply to MBP, you can run Windows completely in MBP also.

    So to say MBP is Multi OS enable.

    The question should be;

    Do you prefer to just run Windows/Linux only in HP or prefer to allow you to run OSX, Windows, Linux, Unix in MBP?
    Indeed the duo platform is workable and tested well. still, i wont install my mac with windows. i still prefer to run seperate. just a personal preferance and i do not mean to implicate on others.

    as i am not into gaming, all the macs i use does not have windows installed. when i needed windows, i just use the notebook with vista or XP or win2000 built in. besides, being different OS, i can run two or three machines simultaneously to earn time.

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    Default Re: HP dv7-1000 notebook or Macbook Pro?

    The display resolution (1920x1200 vs. 1440x900) of the MacBook Pro is worth it, especially along with the dual graphics hardware. The thickness of Apple's notebooks in contrast to the rest is often a big point.

    17 inch notebook computers are not easy travelers but it can be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bousozoku View Post
    The display resolution (1920x1200 vs. 1440x900) of the MacBook Pro is worth it, especially along with the dual graphics hardware. The thickness of Apple's notebooks in contrast to the rest is often a big point.

    17 inch notebook computers are not easy travelers but it can be done.
    Corret me if i am wrong, this is not the SLI dual graphic, in the MBP, you are mainly switching the graphic usuage. Meaning if you are using normal application, then you use the 9400, and if you are using photoshop, you can switch to 9600. in this case, the HP one is already sufficient.

    Yes the resolution is better, but i already have a 30 inch Dell monitor.

    Quote Originally Posted by NiteWind View Post
    Err are you sure the HP spec is much better then MBP?

    HP running on DDR2 ram and MBP running DDR3 lei and also got so many more things faster then the HP.
    DDR3 and DDR if you read the spec or review in HWZ the differences are not significant.




    Thanks guys for all your comments. I bought the DV7-1000 series for $2k. Really worth the money. and i can spend the other 2k to get my lenses and accessories..

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    Default Re: HP dv7-1000 notebook or Macbook Pro?

    Which one is better at memory, process and file management?
    Which one can multitask better?
    I think the answer is obvious.
    Some OS, when I run many programs at the same time, it becomes sluggish and hard disk activities become very high. Keep on hearing the hard disk spinning noise.

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